14 Feb
1998
14 Feb
'98
1:06 p.m.
Hi, I just got back from a hamfest. Found two brand new in the box full
height Tandon floppy drives for the IBM PC. Rich, do you want one?
I also bought two AT&T 3B1 computers without keyboards or monitors. Does
anyone know if the keyboard and monitor from a AT&T 6300 will work on them?
Or where I can find a monitor and keyboard? Also need any advice about
how to get these up and running. What are all the ports for? etc
Joe
14 Feb
14 Feb
1:09 p.m.
The only thing I ever knew ran on these was a special version of AT&T
Unix. It was a great PC, though. Had a built in phone, modem, and a
full UNIX distro.
I think the monitor was a monographics type, sorta like hercules.
Either computer shopper or byte did an article on them back when they
came out. They were Marketed as the ATT 7300 Unix PC, as I recall.
Lemme know if two is more than you need ... ; - >
-Mike
Joe wrote:
Hi, I just got back from a hamfest. Found two brand new in the box full
height Tandon floppy drives for the IBM PC. Rich, do you want one?
I also bought two AT&T 3B1 computers without keyboards or monitors. Does
anyone know if the keyboard and monitor from a AT&T 6300 will work on them?
Or where I can find a monitor and keyboard? Also need any advice about
how to get these up and running. What are all the ports for? etc
Joe
15 Feb
15 Feb
5:35 p.m.
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The hamfest is finally over. Whew, am I glad to be home! I checked the
AT&Ts closer. They're not 3B1s. They're 3B2s! Anybody know anything about
them? I found a little info at the Obselete Computer museum at
"http://s.ecc.engr.uky.edu/~morgan/3b2/3b2faq.html".
BTW what is a DEC PA 90 disk drive? I turned one down. It's the
biggest fixed disk I've ever seen! It makes a Seagate 506 look like a toy!
Joe
At 06:06 PM 2/14/98, you wrote:
I also bought two AT&T 3B1 computers without
keyboards or monitors. Does
anyone know if the keyboard and monitor from a AT&T 6300 will work on them?
Or where I can find a monitor and keyboard? Also need any advice about
how to get these up and running. What are all the ports for? etc
Joe
16 Feb
16 Feb
8:33 a.m.
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At 11:11 PM 2/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
Snip!
Still haven't been back to the place that had the pile of them. There
were bunches at the hamfest though. Most were $75 to $100 (asking price).
BTW what is a DEC PA 90 disk drive? I turned one down. It's the
biggest fixed disk I've ever seen! It makes a Seagate 506 look like a toy!
Joe
Joe,
What's up on the PS/2 machines as well? :)
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
18 Feb
18 Feb
9:54 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
At 11:11 PM 2/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
Jason D.
Still haven't been back to the place that had the pile of them. There
were bunches at the hamfest though. Most were $75 to $100 (asking price).
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
19 Feb
19 Feb
2:23 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
At 08:54 PM 2/18/98 +0000, you wrote:
Joe,
Ouch!
What was the usual PS/2 models with this inflated asking prices
unless it has special reason for this?
Let us know after thru these piles anyway.
Thanks!
Jason D.
The owner is a typical surplus store owner. He buys the stuff for $30
a pallet load (20 to 30 machines), but wants an arm and a leg for each one.
He'll scrap the stuff before selling it cheap. I went back down there
yesterday to look at some HP's and found out he had pulled ALL the boards
out of them and was still wanting $100 each for the empty boxes and power
supplys. The owner was acting like a jerk so I didn't even ask about the
PS-2s. I don't think they're anything special about the PS-2s but I'm not
very familar with them so I don't know for sure.
Joe
At 11:11 PM
2/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
Jason D.
Still haven't been back to the place that had the pile of them. There
were bunches at the hamfest though. Most were $75 to $100 (asking price).
3:03 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
At 08:54 PM 2/18/98 +0000, you wrote:
Joe,
Ouch!
What was the usual PS/2 models with this inflated asking prices
unless it has special reason for this?
Let us know after thru these piles anyway.
Thanks!
Jason D.
The owner is a typical surplus store owner. He buys the stuff for $30
a pallet load (20 to 30 machines), but wants an arm and a leg for each one.
He'll scrap the stuff before selling it cheap. I went back down there
yesterday to look at some HP's and found out he had pulled ALL the boards
out of them and was still wanting $100 each for the empty boxes and power
supplys. The owner was acting like a jerk so I didn't even ask about the
PS-2s. I don't think they're anything special about the PS-2s but I'm not
very familar with them so I don't know for sure.
Hee hee, I agree with you, that guy is jerk! :) Well, so good luck
with alterative place anyway and see how things goes. What do you
mean by what do you not familiar with PS-2s? I could help you to
ID?
Jason D.
At 11:11
PM 2/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
Jason D.
Still haven't been back to the place that had the pile of them. There
were bunches at the hamfest though. Most were $75 to $100 (asking price).
Joe
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
10:34 a.m.
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At 02:03 PM 2/19/98 +0000, you wrote:
Hee hee, I agree with you, that guy is jerk! :)
He'll be a lot more willing to negotiate when he needs money. I'll try
him again sometime.
Well, so good luck
> At 08:54 PM 2/18/98 +0000, you wrote:
> >> At 11:11 PM 2/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >> >Jason D.
> >>
> >> Still haven't been back to the place that had the pile of them.
There
> >> were bunches at the hamfest though. Most
were $75 to $100 (asking
price).
Joe,
Ouch!
What was the usual PS/2 models with this inflated asking prices
unless it has special reason for this?
Let us know after thru these piles anyway.
Thanks!
Jason D.
The owner is a typical surplus store owner. He buys the stuff for $30
a pallet load (20 to 30 machines), but wants an arm and a leg for each one.
He'll scrap the stuff before selling it cheap. I went back down there
yesterday to look at some HP's and found out he had pulled ALL the boards
out of them and was still wanting $100 each for the empty boxes and power
supplys. The owner was acting like a jerk so I didn't even ask about the
PS-2s. I don't think they're anything special about the PS-2s but I'm not
very familar with them so I don't know for sure. with alterative place anyway and see how things goes.
What do you
mean by what do you not familiar with PS-2s? I could help you to
ID?
I don't know what the various models have in them or which ones are rare
or valuable. Do you have a brief list that has that info? I could use a
copy.
BTW the trip to his place wasn't a complete waste. I stopped at a trift
store on the way back and bought a AT&T 7300 and some NorthStar manuals.
Joe
Jason D.
Joe
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
1:53 p.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
Hee hee, I agree with you, that guy is jerk! :)
He'll be a lot more willing to negotiate when he needs money. I'll try
him again sometime.
Well, so good luck
with alterative place anyway and see how things
goes. What do you
mean by what do you not familiar with PS-2s? I could help you to
ID?
I don't know what the various models have in them or which ones are rare
or valuable. Do you have a brief list that has that info? I could use a
copy. BTW the trip to his place wasn't a complete
waste. I stopped at a trift
store on the way back and bought a AT&T 7300 and some NorthStar manuals.
:)
Great for yours! But my interests is not in that type of
machines AT&T type. Too few around here where I live.
Joe
>
>Jason D.
>
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
7:06 p.m.
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca wrote:
All PS/2 starts with 85aa-yyy,
Not all of them. One of my favorite odd-ball computers is the IBM PS/2e
(9533). It's a very small low-power desktop model with 4 PCMCIA slots.
One of mine even has an external flat panel VGA display. Because of the
low power consumption, I use one as my home LAN internet gateway.
BTW, does anybody have an extra floppy and cable for one of these things?
It uses a notebook floppy drive and a notebook-like cable (mylar?).
-- Doug
2:29 p.m.
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca wrote:
I did not say so, and it does not come in by it's own but anyway
that came out so I will add;
I was talking about 85xx models, those are first phase IBM introduced
and few others. The 95xx is considered late models and strictly sold
to commerical use so very rarely seen in common use due to price.
But the latest MCA based machine is currently in production are 700
series these days. Real reliable machine days in and out without
breaking down with SUPERB support contact paid by boatloads of $ by
business who can't afford to lose business for some reasons.
About the floppy part, why not the LS120 with PCMCIA card combo?
This way, you have 1.44mb, and 120mb disk and kill both three birds
at once! :)
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
All PS/2 starts with 85aa-yyy,
Not all of them. One of my favorite odd-ball computers is the IBM PS/2e
(9533). It's a very small low-power desktop model with 4 PCMCIA slots.
One of mine even has an external flat panel VGA display. Because of the
low power consumption, I use one as my home LAN internet gateway.
BTW, does anybody have an extra floppy and cable for one of these things?
It uses a notebook floppy drive and a notebook-like cable (mylar?).
-- Doug
7:34 p.m.
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On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca wrote:
About the floppy part, why not the LS120 with PCMCIA
card combo?
This way, you have 1.44mb, and 120mb disk and kill both three birds
at once! :)
I'm not familiar with the LS120, but it sounds like an Epson DYO211 that I
have, and it's a useful device but doesn't help with the PS/2e. The
PS/2e doesn't have a standard floppy drive connector nor does it have any
free non-PCMCIA slots (it has one slot that looks like MCA, and has what
looks like a 16-bit ISA riser card plugged into it, which then has the
4-slot PCMCIA box plugged into it!). I don't think there's another
machine quite like it.
-- Doug
9:13 a.m.
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It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
The owner is a typical surplus store owner. He buys the stuff for $30
a pallet load (20 to 30 machines), but wants an arm and a leg for each one.
He'll scrap the stuff before selling it cheap. I went back down there
yesterday to look at some HP's and found out he had pulled ALL the boards
out of them and was still wanting $100 each for the empty boxes and power
supplys. The owner was acting like a jerk so I didn't even ask about the
PS-2s. I don't think they're anything special about the PS-2s but I'm not
very familar with them so I don't know for sure.
You're in Orlando, right? I might know the guys (or at least, there some
similar people in South Florida).
I attended an auction at Florida Atlantic University last year, hoping to
pick up some nice computer equipment. There were a stack of HPs (68k based
ones) for sale (that I had actually used years before at the university) in
one pallet, the monitors were in another, and the keyboards in yet a third
(my first complaint about the auction - the people running it didn't know
the first thing about anything they were selling).
Anyway, my friend and I were after the HPs and we had between us about
$400 so we both had high hopes. This was before The Bastards.
The Bastards were two guys with an obvious bankroll and to me, it seemed
like they were just going through the motions of the auction and would have
rathered just come in and cart the stuff away, screw this auction crap.
We eventually got to the HP monitors, which, for the most part, could only
be used with the HPs. Bidding started and The Bastards ended up with the
monitors. My friend tried to talk to one of The Bastards about the
monitors, but The Bastard wasn't really interested in listening to us. The
HPs were next, and they basically outbid us on a dozen HP units.
We tried telling them they weren't PC compatibles and tried buying some
from them right there, but The Bastards "want to
take an inventory and see
what we have. Call us back next week."
They also managed to pick up just about every damn keyboard (since most
keyboards were in a separate pallet) in the auction and THEY WOULDN'T EVEN
CONSIDER SELLING THEM TO ABOUT 50 OTHER PEOPLE THERE THAT WANTED THEM!
Evenone else by then wanted to tar and feather The Bastards for basically
ruining the auction [1].
I tried calling them the following week but got no where. I suspect the
HPs have been scrapped by now. Pity. They were nice machines.
-spc (Wanted to tie and gag The Bastards)
[1] There were two fussball tables for auction as well. One man wanted
to buy one for his son (who attended the auction with his Dad) of
about 10 years or so. The Bastards out-bid him on the first table,
and drove the price up to $100 for the second table and apparently
were "kind" enough to let the father get it.
10:54 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
Nope, this is a different bastard. Actually only half-bastard. He's
down right civil when he doesn't have money in his pocket and wants to sell
something. But we do have plenty of full time Bastards here, in fact too
many.
What kind of HP were you looking for? Sounds like HP 9000s. I have
several 9000 200s and a 310.
If you ever hear of any more HPs for auction, let me know.
Joe
At 03:13 PM 2/19/98 -0500, Cap'n Naplam wrote:
It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
The owner is a typical surplus store owner. He buys the stuff for $30
a pallet load (20 to 30 machines), but wants an arm and a leg for each one.
He'll scrap the stuff before selling it cheap. I went back down there
yesterday to look at some HP's and found out he had pulled ALL the boards
out of them and was still wanting $100 each for the empty boxes and power
supplys. The owner was acting like a jerk so I didn't even ask about the
PS-2s. I don't think they're anything special about the PS-2s but I'm not
very familar with them so I don't know for sure.
You're in Orlando, right? I might know the guys (or at least, there some
similar people in South Florida).
I attended an auction at Florida Atlantic University last year, hoping to
pick up some nice computer equipment. There were a stack of HPs (68k based
ones) for sale (that I had actually used years before at the university) in
one pallet, the monitors were in another, and the keyboards in yet a third
(my first complaint about the auction - the people running it didn't know
the first thing about anything they were selling).
Anyway, my friend and I were after the HPs and we had between us about
$400 so we both had high hopes. This was before The Bastards.
The Bastards were two guys with an obvious bankroll and to me, it seemed
like they were just going through the motions of the auction and would have
rathered just come in and cart the stuff away, screw this auction crap.
We eventually got to the HP monitors, which, for the most part, could only
be used with the HPs. Bidding started and The Bastards ended up with the
monitors. My friend tried to talk to one of The Bastards about the
monitors, but The Bastard wasn't really interested in listening to us. The
HPs were next, and they basically outbid us on a dozen HP units.
We tried telling them they weren't PC compatibles and tried buying some
from them right there, but The Bastards "want to take an inventory and see
what we have. Call us back next week."
They also managed to pick up just about every damn keyboard (since most
keyboards were in a separate pallet) in the auction and THEY WOULDN'T EVEN
CONSIDER SELLING THEM TO ABOUT 50 OTHER PEOPLE THERE THAT WANTED THEM!
Evenone else by then wanted to tar and feather The Bastards for basically
ruining the auction [1].
I tried calling them the following week but got no where. I suspect the
HPs have been scrapped by now. Pity. They were nice machines.
-spc (Wanted to tie and gag The Bastards)
[1] There were two fussball tables for auction as well. One man wanted
to buy one for his son (who attended the auction with his Dad) of
about 10 years or so. The Bastards out-bid him on the first table,
and drove the price up to $100 for the second table and apparently
were "kind" enough to let the father get it.
11:06 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
What kind of HP were you looking for? Sounds like HP 9000s. I have
several 9000 200s and a 310.
I don't recall what they were, but that's okay. Several months ago I
managed to pick up two HP Apollos (3xx series) for free. All I'm doing now
is waiting on the OS (which a friend has, he just has to break root 8-)
-spc (DomainOS, so if anyone has any ideas ... )
12:27 p.m.
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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Captain Napalm wrote:
I don't recall what they were, but that's
okay. Several months ago I
managed to pick up two HP Apollos (3xx series) for free. All I'm doing now
is waiting on the OS (which a friend has, he just has to break root 8-)
Then you're going to be waiting a -loong- time. There is no real way to
break root on DomainOS. If you haven't got media, you're basically just
screwed. It's also highly likely that vital parts of the OS exist on other
machines that were once connected to the machine your friend has but hve
long since ceased to exist. This often includes (but is not limited to)
the root account---DomainOS bears only the slightest resemblance to UNIX
at the user level and certainly none at all when you get down to the
mechanics of things.
Besides, the only HP machines (proper) to run DomainOS were the 4xx
series machines. The 3xx machines ran something else. HP-UX, probably.
There were the Apollo DSP and DN series machines, and the HP/Apollo 4xxx
machines. These were, IIRC, the only machines to run DomainOS (formerly
called AEGIS).
ok
r.
12:54 p.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
It was thus said that the Great R. Stricklin once stated:
On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Captain Napalm wrote:
Well, we have the media.
The situation is this: I have to HP Apollo 3xx (340 if I recall, I can
check when I get home). Each unit has two drives, each approximately 400M,
but each drive was wiped before being given out (@#@#$@#%!@## software
licensing). I did check one of the BSDs [1] and it did support the HP
Apollos but not my particular model (well, if I pull some code from this
version, and some code from that version, the model I have is covered). I
know that Linux has been ported to the 68k, but I would have to get
programming specs on the HP Apollo 3xx I have. Well, I'd like to get them
anyway for my own work in OS design (but that's beyond the scope of this
group). I haven't bothered to check HP yet (hmmmm, maybe I can check their
site) for fear I'll have to pay for the information (like I did for the uVAX
2000 I have).
Anyway, to get back on track. My friend (who also picked one up) knows
some people where he works that have the media for DomainOS that doesn't
require a network to boot, but the root password has been lost (for what
it's worth, it is on a disk).
My friend has been rather busy at work though so he hasn't had time to
play around with it.
I don't recall what they were, but
that's okay. Several months ago I
managed to pick up two HP Apollos (3xx series) for free. All I'm doing now
is waiting on the OS (which a friend has, he just has to break root 8-)
Then you're going to be waiting a -loong- time. There is no real way to
break root on DomainOS. If you haven't got media, you're basically just
screwed. Besides, the only HP machines (proper) to run DomainOS
were the 4xx
series machines. The 3xx machines ran something else. HP-UX, probably.
There were the Apollo DSP and DN series machines, and the HP/Apollo 4xxx
machines. These were, IIRC, the only machines to run DomainOS (formerly
called AEGIS).
Oh. Rats.
-spc (Might be having more fun that he bargined for 8-/
[1] Open|Net|Free. Don't recall which I checked.
1:40 p.m.
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At 05:06 PM 2/19/98 -0500, the Cap'n wrote:
It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
NICE find! How did you manage that? I almost never get anything free,
cheap sometimes but not free.
All I'm doing now
What kind of HP were you looking for? Sounds like HP 9000s. I have
several 9000 200s and a 310.
I don't recall what they were, but that's okay. Several months ago I
managed to pick up two HP Apollos (3xx series) for free. is waiting on the OS (which a friend has, he just has
to break root 8-)
I know someone that is desperately looking for a 300 series to buy.
He's not a collector he uses one and it died, so he's probably willing to
pay a fair price for it. I don't think he needs anything except the CPU.
If you're interested let me know and I'll get you his E-address.
-spc (DomainOS, so if anyone has any ideas ... )
What is DomainOS ? I've never heard of it.
Joe
12:47 p.m.
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It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
Sorry, no can do. Part of the condition of getting the HPs was I don't
sell it (not that I plan on anyway 8-)
It's a Unix-like OS from Apollo (before they were bought out by HP) that
has some very nice features. Unfortunately, most installations assume a
network and it's rather hard to boot without one.
-spc (And it has blinken lights!)
At 05:06 PM 2/19/98 -0500, the Cap'n wrote:
Florida Atlantic University (aforementioned site of the auction with The
Bastards) had about two dozen HP Apollo 300s that no one wanted (of course,
being non-Wintel or Sun boxes) so someone decided it might be better to give
them away to students than to throw them away.
Being a student, I followed the directions given (write a letter, saying
I'm a student, it'll further my education, yada yada yada) and I end up with
two HP Apollo 300s, each with 32M RAM, nearly 1G drive space, 6M color video
card, keyboard and mouse. I only got one color monitor (there were a very
limiited number of those) but that's okay.
What's sad is that out of a student body of 15,000+, only three students
(two undergrad (me and my friend) and one masters out of Mechanical
Engineering) actually had the ability to use the machines. The other
students that showed up kept asking if they could run Windows on it (arg!).
It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
NICE find! How did you manage that? I almost never get anything free,
cheap sometimes but not free.
What kind of HP were you looking for? Sounds like HP 9000s. I have
several 9000 200s and a 310.
I don't recall what they were, but that's okay. Several months ago I
managed to pick up two HP Apollos (3xx series) for free. All I'm
doing now
is waiting on the OS (which a friend has, he just has to break root 8-)
I know someone that is desperately looking for a 300 series to buy.
He's not a collector he uses one and it died, so he's probably willing to
pay a fair price for it. I don't think he needs anything except the CPU.
If you're interested let me know and I'll get you his E-address. -spc
(DomainOS, so if anyone has any ideas ... )
What is DomainOS ? I've never heard of it.
2:12 p.m.
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At 06:47 PM 2/19/98 -0500, Cap'n Naplam wrote:
No sweat. How long do you have to keep it for?
It's a Unix-like OS from Apollo (before they were bought out by HP) that
has some very nice features. Unfortunately, most installations assume a
network and it's rather hard to boot without one.
-spc (And it has blinken lights!)
Kool!
Joe
It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
Nice. My school ( U Can't Finish ) would never do anything like that
for the students. Are you still in Florida? I'm in Orlando.
At 05:06 PM 2/19/98 -0500, the Cap'n wrote:
Florida Atlantic University (aforementioned site of the auction with The
Bastards) had about two dozen HP Apollo 300s that no one wanted (of course,
being non-Wintel or Sun boxes) so someone decided it might be better to give
them away to students than to throw them away.
It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
NICE find! How did you manage that? I almost never get anything free,
cheap sometimes but not free.
What kind of HP were you looking for? Sounds like HP 9000s. I have
several 9000 200s and a 310.
I don't recall what they were, but that's okay. Several months ago I
managed to pick up two HP Apollos (3xx series) for free. Being a student, I followed the directions given
(write a letter, saying
I'm a student, it'll further my education, yada yada yada) and I end up with
two HP Apollo 300s, each with 32M RAM, nearly 1G drive space, 6M color video
card, keyboard and mouse. I only got one color monitor (there were a very
limiited number of those) but that's okay.
What's sad is that out of a student body of 15,000+, only three students
(two undergrad (me and my friend) and one masters out of Mechanical
Engineering) actually had the ability to use the machines. The other
students that showed up kept asking if they could run Windows on it (arg!).
> > All I'm doing now
> >is waiting on the OS (which a friend has, he just has to break root 8-)
Sounds like you may have to eraese it and load something else.
I know someone that is desperately looking for a 300 series to buy.
He's not a collector he uses one and it died, so he's probably willing to
pay a fair price for it. I don't think he needs anything except the CPU.
If you're interested let me know and I'll get you his E-address.
Sorry, no can do. Part of the condition of getting the HPs was I don't
sell it (not that I plan on anyway 8-) -spc
(DomainOS, so if anyone has any ideas ... )
What is DomainOS ? I've never heard of it.
2 p.m.
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It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
>
Biggest CHOMP on tasty shamelessly loud and long rantings...Burp!
The thing you called these guys as "The Bastards" is seeking for
simply put:
GOLD and rare chips. And Aluminum, copper, steel, some iron and some
plastics, bit of glass in this order from valuable to least value.
Yep, this makes me mad but basically, what starts this all in first
place was how clueless these asset guys at that school. If they're
not palletized and sold individually in loose big boxes just enough
to get guys started on those machines then that would be great!
So, that is not really the "The Bastards", College was.
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
7:55 p.m.
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It was thus said that the Great jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca once stated:
Okay, but that still doesn't explain the Fussball incident (where they
drove the price on two fussball tables to over $100 each! They got one, and
let someone else get the other).
It was thus said that the Great Joe once stated:
>
Biggest CHOMP on tasty shamelessly loud and long rantings...Burp!
The thing you called these guys as "The Bastards" is seeking for
simply put:
GOLD and rare chips. And Aluminum, copper, steel, some iron and some
plastics, bit of glass in this order from valuable to least value.
Yep, this makes me mad but basically, what starts this
all in first
place was how clueless these asset guys at that school. If they're
not palletized and sold individually in loose big boxes just enough
to get guys started on those machines then that would be great!
They were clueless, but when you have a warehouse full of old equipment
it's just as easy to put all the items of one kind over here, those of
another kind there and what have you.
But it was the attitude of The Bastards that really pissed everybody off.
They appeared exceedinly bored by the whole thing, they had money and they
let everyone know it too.
So, that is not really the "The Bastards",
College was.
Well, college wasn't all that great, but for more reasons than just this
...
-spc (Still a bit upset 8-/
20 Feb
20 Feb
4:32 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca wrote:
The thing you called these guys as "The
Bastards" is seeking for
simply put:
GOLD and rare chips. And Aluminum, copper, steel, some iron and some
plastics, bit of glass in this order from valuable to least value.
Yep, this makes me mad but basically, what starts this all in first
place was how clueless these asset guys at that school. If they're
not palletized and sold individually in loose big boxes just enough
to get guys started on those machines then that would be great!
So, that is not really the "The Bastards", College was.
The thing is, the college is just looking to get rid of the stuff as fast
a possible. Palletizing everything that looks similar and auctioning off
by pallets is the quickest. If they had to auction off systems one by one
they'd be there all day. But then again, they could always do a Dutch
auction. Someone just has to appeal to them the virtues of selling the
systems to those in need or want of one. In the future, it might be
possible to convince an organization in a similar situation to set aside 4
or 5 complete systems for those wanting to purchase them to use. Then any
that didn't get sold get added to other mass lots and get auctioned off en
masse.
Its up to us to convince them that their junk is still treasure to us.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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24 Feb
24 Feb
3:41 p.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
I think they came to an auction here in Utah.
Assholes outbid themselves at least twice. Bid above the starting bid
on items which no one else bid on. Then, continued to drive the bids up
on items with multiple duplicates even though the second and third
bidders got a chance to buy the items outright at the bid price. For
the most part, they were bidding on everything and most everyone else
just wanted one system.
They pushed things up past the street price on many occassions.
They were just too cool...
-Mike
Captain Napalm wrote:
You're in Orlando, right? I might know the guys
(or at least, there some
similar people in South Florida).
I attended an auction at Florida Atlantic University last year,
The Bastards were two guys with an obvious bankroll and to me, it seemed
like they were just going through the motions of the auction and would have
rathered just come in and cart the stuff away, screw this auction crap.
15 Feb
15 Feb
6:55 p.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
Joe:
3b2 might be even better. They were going for 300 to 1500 back in '90
when I was messing with them
A good page (with pics and some data) is:
http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/att3b2.htm
I can't seem to get to any of the referenced faq pages.
-Mike
Joe wrote:
The hamfest is finally over. Whew, am I glad to be home! I checked the
AT&Ts closer. They're not 3B1s. They're 3B2s! Anybody know anything about
them? I found a little info at the Obselete Computer museum at
"http://s.ecc.engr.uky.edu/~morgan/3b2/3b2faq.html".
16 Feb
16 Feb
9:17 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
Mike,
Thanks for the URL. It looks like the 3B2 is better. To start with, I
can use a terminal with it instead of having to find some kind of odd ball
keyboard and monitor.
I found some other 3B2 FAQs but their URLs aren't available anymore. I
did find one site with some interesting 3B2 information. It belongs to the
US Army's Theater Mediacal Information system. They were using 3B2s but
they're in the process of replacing them with HP 9000s. The 3B2s are going
to be disposed of as "unserviceable". So if anyyone is interested in 3B2s
that can probably find a lot of them cheap through the DRMO. There is even
a tenative replacement schedule listed at the TAMMIS site.
Joe
PS there is lots of technical stuff about the 3B2 buried underneath all
the announcements at the TAMMIS site. I found info on how to connect and
set up additional terminals, how to setup as PC to connect to the 3B2 and
more.
At 10:55 PM 2/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
Joe:
3b2 might be even better. They were going for 300 to 1500 back in '90
when I was messing with them
A good page (with pics and some data) is:
http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/att3b2.htm
I can't seem to get to any of the referenced faq pages.
-Mike
Joe wrote:
The hamfest is finally over. Whew, am I glad to be home! I checked the
AT&Ts closer. They're not 3B1s. They're 3B2s! Anybody know anything about
them? I found a little info at the Obselete Computer museum at
"http://s.ecc.engr.uky.edu/~morgan/3b2/3b2faq.html".
9:35 a.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
Joe:
Do you have any software???
-Mike
Send me the stuff on the TAMMIS site. I would like to pick one up
someday...
-Mike
Joe wrote:
Mike,
Thanks for the URL. It looks like the 3B2 is better. To start with, I
can use a terminal with it instead of having to find some kind of odd ball
keyboard and monitor.
I found some other 3B2 FAQs but their URLs aren't available anymore. I
did find one site with some interesting 3B2 information. It belongs to the
US Army's Theater Mediacal Information system. They were using 3B2s but
they're in the process of replacing them with HP 9000s. The 3B2s are going
to be disposed of as "unserviceable". So if anyyone is interested in 3B2s
that can probably find a lot of them cheap through the DRMO. There is even
a tenative replacement schedule listed at the TAMMIS site.
Joe
PS there is lots of technical stuff about the 3B2 buried underneath all
the announcements at the TAMMIS site. I found info on how to connect and
set up additional terminals, how to setup as PC to connect to the 3B2 and
more.
At 10:55 PM 2/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Joe:
>
>3b2 might be even better. They were going for 300 to 1500 back in '90
>when I was messing with them
>
>A good page (with pics and some data) is:
>
>http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/att3b2.htm
>
>I can't seem to get to any of the referenced faq pages.
>
>-Mike
>
>Joe wrote:
>>
>> The hamfest is finally over. Whew, am I glad to be home! I checked the
>> AT&Ts closer. They're not 3B1s. They're 3B2s! Anybody know anything
about
>> them? I found a little info at the Obselete Computer museum at
>> "http://s.ecc.engr.uky.edu/~morgan/3b2/3b2faq.html".
>>
>>
>
4:29 p.m.
New subject: OOPs AT&Ts
At 01:35 PM 2/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
Joe:
Do you have any software???
Nope, none, notta, zip. Do you have any software or docs for the 3B2?
I did find an old software archive for the 3B1 at Ohio State U. There is
supposed to be an archive for the 3B2 but I couldn't find it.
-Mike
Send me the stuff on the TAMMIS site. I would like to pick one up
someday...
It's at "http://www.tammis.amedd.army.mil/"
Joe
-Mike
Joe wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the URL. It looks like the 3B2 is better. To start with, I
> can use a terminal with it instead of having to find some kind of odd ball
> keyboard and monitor.
>
> I found some other 3B2 FAQs but their URLs aren't available anymore. I
> did find one site with some interesting 3B2 information. It belongs to the
> US Army's Theater Mediacal Information system. They were using 3B2s but
> they're in the process of replacing them with HP 9000s. The 3B2s are going
> to be disposed of as "unserviceable". So if anyyone is interested in 3B2s
> that can probably find a lot of them cheap through the DRMO. There is even
> a tenative replacement schedule listed at the TAMMIS site.
>
> Joe
>
> PS there is lots of technical stuff about the 3B2 buried underneath all
> the announcements at the TAMMIS site. I found info on how to connect and
> set up additional terminals, how to setup as PC to connect to the 3B2 and
> more.
>
> At 10:55 PM 2/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >Joe:
> >
> >3b2 might be even better. They were going for 300 to 1500 back in '90
> >when I was messing with them
> >
> >A good page (with pics and some data) is:
> >
> >http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/att3b2.htm
> >
> >I can't seem to get to any of the referenced faq pages.
> >
> >-Mike
> >
> >Joe wrote:
> >>
> >> The hamfest is finally over. Whew, am I glad to be home! I checked the
> >> AT&Ts closer. They're not 3B1s. They're 3B2s! Anybody know
anything
about
>> them?
I found a little info at the Obselete Computer museum at
>> "http://s.ecc.engr.uky.edu/~morgan/3b2/3b2faq.html".
>>
>>
>
18 Feb
18 Feb
2:59 p.m.
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16 Feb
1:11 p.m.
Joe wrote:
I also bought two AT&T 3B1 computers without
keyboards or monitors. Does
anyone know if the keyboard and monitor from a AT&T 6300 will work on them?
Or where I can find a monitor and keyboard? Also need any advice about
how to get these up and running. What are all the ports for? etc
Jeez, removing the monitor from a 7300/3B1 is one of the hardest things
you can do with the beast. I've got one parts machine with a monitor
that otherwise works -- version one keyboard as well. The 6300 keyboard
will not work to the best of my knowledge -- then again, it might be as
simple as replacing the connector. The Unix PC keyboard (especially the
second version) is one of my two favorite keyboards ever, rivalled only
by the Tandy 2000 keyboard. The two _working_ 7300s I've got are of
course not available.
--
Ward Griffiths
Dylan: How many years must some people exist,
before they're allowed to be free?
WDG3rd: If they "must" exist until they're "allowed",
they'll never be free.
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