6 Nov
2014
6 Nov
'14
5:38 a.m.
From: IN%"cctalk at classiccmp.org"
5-NOV-2014 15:54:48.98
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Subj: cctalk Digest, Vol 1, Issue 16
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:26:55 -0500
From: Charles Phillips <charles at uniwho.com>
Subject: Re: list issues & status
Message-ID: <15B1D053-9560-4850-B84C-7A2AE983B22E at uniwho.com>
anyone really hard core and still uses Elm?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_(email_client)
:-)
OK, I'll bite. Reading and replying with OpenVMS MAIL. :)
Fred
6 Nov
6 Nov
8:49 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Fred wrote:
I am sending this to you from a DEC AS400 running OpenVMS 8.3, PMDF 6.5
and I am using Pine 4.44L which is included with PMDF 6.5. I read most of
list mail this way.
Will that Do?
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
anyone really
hard core and still uses Elm?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elm_(email_client)
:-)
OK, I'll bite. Reading and replying with OpenVMS MAIL. :) 
9 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On 11/06/2014 08:49 AM, Richard Loken wrote:
I am sending this to you from a DEC AS400 running OpenVMS 8.3, PMDF 6.5
and I am using Pine 4.44L which is included with PMDF 6.5. I read most of
list mail this way.
Will that Do?
Only if you're transferring the files using UUCP.
--Chuck
9:04 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Only if you're transferring the files using
UUCP.
Bravo! One for Chuck!
Haven't run uucp at work for 30 years and never at home. When I look at
the silliness on the "world wide web" today, I begin to miss uucp.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
10:43 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Richard Loken <richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca>
wrote:
Lord, I actually miss UUCP. I had my own custom modemcap dialling routines that
interacted with my own getty for dial in/out interlock. We connected DEMAND+FAST to both
decvax and utzoo with telebits, and took a full usenet feed.
Sigh. The good old days.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Only if you're transferring the files using UUCP.
Bravo! One for Chuck!
Haven't run uucp at work for 30 years and never at home. When I look at
the silliness on the "world wide web" today, I begin to miss uucp.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
11:15 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Roe Peterson wrote:
Lord, I actually miss UUCP. I had my own custom
modemcap dialling
routines that interacted with my own getty for dial in/out interlock. We
connected DEMAND+FAST to both decvax and utzoo with telebits, and took a
full usenet feed.
I once met Henry Spencer who ran utzoo as far as I recall. He told me that
their monthly phone bill was in the thousands. My bosses would have never
stood for that.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
4:29 p.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Richard Loken
<richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca> wrote:
Yes, he did. Utzoo was amazing, and let's all remember that "C" news came
from Spencer and Collyer. I follow the Henry Spencer 10 rules of C programming :-)
I played Dungeons & Dragons with him once.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Roe Peterson wrote:
connected DEMAND+FAST to both decvax and utzoo with telebits, and took a
full usenet feed.
I once met Henry Spencer who ran utzoo as far as I recall.
12:19 p.m.
New subject: UUCP was: Re: anybody still using elm
Forgot to mention that if you were running a BBS, UUCP (or a PC variant,
such as UUPC) could use the same modem to call out as was normally used
to receive calls. Very convenient in the pre-Web Internet years.
--Chuck
9:12 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
Only if you're transferring the files using UUCP.
Now that I *am* still using. All of my mail servers act as secondary MX servers for each
other and when things come in they get queued up and transferred via UUCP. It has worked
great for me for 20 years, no reason to switch now. When a link goes down it?s not a
problem, nothing gets lost and UUCP doesn?t time-out and start bouncing messages. Plus I
still have one server that?s on a residential connection which moves all of its mail via
UUCP since it can do polling when necessary.
--
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Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com
10:06 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On 11/06/2014 09:12 AM, Chris Osborn wrote:
On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
Indeed. I'll have to check, but I didn't give up on UUCP until about
2000, when I changed ISPs (the new one didn't offer it). I found UUCP
to be very reliable indeed.
In a sense, fetchmail isn't all that different--and I'm still using that.
--Chuck
Only if you're transferring the files using UUCP.
Now that I *am* still using. All of my mail servers act as secondary
MX servers for each other and when things come in they get queued up
and transferred via UUCP. It has worked great for me for 20 years, no
reason to switch now. When a link goes down it?s not a problem,
nothing gets lost and UUCP doesn?t time-out and start bouncing
messages. Plus I still have one server that?s on a residential
connection which moves all of its mail via UUCP since it can do
polling when necessary. 
3:09 p.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
Elm was my prefered e-mail program on all *nix boxes i ran.
And talking about UUCP. Found my old map entry. For comaprison I did a speedtest on my DSL
connection - 24.3Mbs. A wee bit better than 2400bps. 8-)
#N bedrock
#S 80286 AT Compatible; Coherent UNIX V3.1.0
#O Infinite Concepts
#C Alex Dumitru
#E bedrock!root
#T +1 416 525-4604
#P 195 Markland Street #2, Hamilton Ontario Canada L8P-2K7
#L 43 16 N / 73 55 W city
#R Digital Image Processing, Hardware/Software Development
#U blunile
#W dumitru at blunile.guild.org (Alex Dumitru); Tue Aug 27 20:29:59 EDT 1991
#
#
#
bedrock blunile(EVENING) # 2400bps, downstream mail
9:02 a.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Richard Loken wrote:
I am sending this to you from a DEC AS400 running
OpenVMS 8.3, PMDF 6.5
and I am using Pine 4.44L which is included with PMDF 6.5. I read most of
list mail this way.
Oops that should Alphastation 500 not 400.
Freudian slip, this box is stepping in for my big warm cuddly AS4100 which
is out of service waiting for me to fix or replace the Dallas RTC chip with
its built in but dead battery.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
1:14 p.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 10:02:13AM -0700, Richard Loken wrote:
Oops that should Alphastation 500 not 400.
It might help if you say AlphaStation either way. I saw DEC AS400 and
thought, "That can't be right. AS/400s are from IBM." :-)
--
Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.Lassie.xyz
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX
What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum.
1:28 p.m.
New subject: anybody still using elm
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 10:02:13AM -0700, Richard
Loken wrote:
Yeah but us VAX guys weren't IBM guys.
I went through the same thing earlier in the week where somebody said
something about an HP AS400. Thunk I, there is no such thing as an HP
AS400, the only thing I know of is an IBM AS/400. I never figured out what
they were talking about, in the end I assumed it was an IBM AS/400 but I was
quite sure it was not a DEC Alphaserver 400. But maybe it was, I don't
know.
C'est dommage.
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Unix System Administrator : "Anybody can be a father
Athabasca University : but you have to earn
Athabasca, Alberta Canada : the title of 'daddy'"
** richardlo at admin.athabascau.ca ** : - Lynn Johnston
Oops that should Alphastation 500 not 400.
It might help if you say AlphaStation either way. I saw DEC AS400 and
thought, "That can't be right. AS/400s are from IBM." :-)
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