23 Jan
2014
23 Jan
'14
12:16 a.m.
Am I doing something wrong? I've written two new topics in the last few
days, and neither of them are showing up.
However, my replies to existing threads seem to show up more reliably.
Is this even visible?
TIA for any info.
23 Jan
23 Jan
10:10 a.m.
I've been seeing them, and they're in the list archive. If you're using a
pop3 email client, keep in mind that gmail is "smart" enough to not deliver
emails to your inbox that were actually sent by you. That is, unless you're
using the recent: prefix for your login name.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of drlegendre .
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:16 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Two of my recent posts aren't showing up..
Am I doing something wrong? I've written two new topics in the last few
days, and neither of them are showing up.
However, my replies to existing threads seem to show up more reliably.
Is this even visible?
TIA for any info.
3:39 p.m.
No POP client - I'm using the stock Gmail web front-end, so maybe that's
part of it.. I should take a look in the archives. Or more like, I need to
find out how to take a look in the archives, first.
So in other words, if nobody replied to my comments, it appears as if the
message never showed up - but only on my side.
Thanks folks!!
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM, James <james at slor.net> wrote:
I've been seeing them, and they're in the list
archive. If you're using a
pop3 email client, keep in mind that gmail is "smart" enough to not deliver
emails to your inbox that were actually sent by you. That is, unless
you're
using the recent: prefix for your login name.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of drlegendre .
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:16 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Two of my recent posts aren't showing up..
Am I doing something wrong? I've written two new topics in the last few
days, and neither of them are showing up.
However, my replies to existing threads seem to show up more reliably.
Is this even visible?
TIA for any info.
4:10 p.m.
Yea, same for me. I'm using Gmail as a client. I post things and they
often don't show up unless people contribute to the thread. The fact that
they do appear once people have commented gives me confidence that the mail
is getting through after all.
It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomena.
Terry (Tez)
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
No POP client - I'm using the stock Gmail web
front-end, so maybe that's
part of it.. I should take a look in the archives. Or more like, I need to
find out how to take a look in the archives, first.
So in other words, if nobody replied to my comments, it appears as if the
message never showed up - but only on my side.
Thanks folks!!
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM, James <james at slor.net> wrote:
I've been seeing them, and they're in the
list archive. If you're using
a
pop3 email client, keep in mind that gmail is
"smart" enough to not
deliver
emails to your inbox that were actually sent by
you. That is, unless
you're
using the recent: prefix for your login name.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of drlegendre .
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:16 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Two of my recent posts aren't showing up..
Am I doing something wrong? I've written two new topics in the last few
days, and neither of them are showing up.
However, my replies to existing threads seem to show up more reliably.
Is this even visible?
TIA for any info.
4:29 p.m.
Yep, I guess that' s life in the World of Tomorrow.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Terry Stewart <terry at webweavers.co.nz>wrote:
Yea, same for me. I'm using Gmail as a client. I
post things and they
often don't show up unless people contribute to the thread. The fact that
they do appear once people have commented gives me confidence that the mail
is getting through after all.
It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomena.
Terry (Tez)
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com>
wrote:
No POP client - I'm using the stock Gmail web
front-end, so maybe that's
part of it.. I should take a look in the archives. Or more like, I need
to
find out how to take a look in the archives,
first.
So in other words, if nobody replied to my comments, it appears as if the
message never showed up - but only on my side.
Thanks folks!!
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM, James <james at slor.net> wrote:
> I've been seeing them, and they're in the list archive. If you're
using
a
few
pop3 email client, keep in mind that gmail is
"smart" enough to not
deliver
> emails to your inbox that were actually sent by you. That is, unless
> you're
> using the recent: prefix for your login name.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
> > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of drlegendre .
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:16 AM
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > Subject: Two of my recent posts aren't showing up..
> >
> > Am I doing something wrong? I've written two new topics in the last > > days, and neither of them are showing
up.
> >
> > However, my replies to existing threads seem to show up more
reliably.
Is this even visible?
TIA for any info.
5:56 p.m.
On 23/01/2014 21:29, drlegendre . wrote:
Yep, I guess that' s life in the World of
Tomorrow.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Terry Stewart <terry at webweavers.co.nz>wrote:
> Yea, same for me. I'm using Gmail as a client. I post things and they
> often don't show up unless people contribute to the thread.
This is the way
GMAIL works. It does not display your own e-mail in the
in-box.
> The fact that
> they do appear once people have commented gives me confidence that the mail
> is getting through after all.
>
> It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomena.
All
GMAIL users have the same experience.
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588
> Terry (Tez)
>
>
4:47 p.m.
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, Terry Stewart wrote:
Yea, same for me. I'm using Gmail as a client. I
post things and they
often don't show up unless people contribute to the thread. The fact that
they do appear once people have commented gives me confidence that the mail
is getting through after all.
It's good to know I'm not the only one experiencing this phenomena.
IIUC this is the normal behavior of the gmail inbox. Mail you send is only
shown in 'Sent Mail' unless another message shows up in the thread (as
determined by Message-ID, so the original message looping back to you via
a list does not count).
Alexey
5:10 p.m.
New subject: Vintage-computer.com
Hello,
Is Erik Klein a member of this mailing list?
I noticed that the forum on his site vintage-computer.com is down due to a database
problem, or so the error message say.
/Jacob
5:21 p.m.
New subject: Vintage-computer.com
Is Erik Klein a member of this mailing list?
I noticed that the forum on his site vintage-computer.com is down due
to a
database problem, or so the error message say.
/Jacob
I just was able to get into it just fine. It's been a while since I had
visited, so there was a lot of new stuff to explore.
-Rick Bensene
5:22 p.m.
New subject: Vintage-computer.com
Looking fine for me. Perhaps a temporary glitch?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Lindberg
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:10 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Vintage-computer.com
Hello,
Is Erik Klein a member of this mailing list?
I noticed that the forum on his site vintage-computer.com is down due to a
database problem, or so the error message say.
/Jacob
6:12 p.m.
New subject: Vintage-computer.com
Thanks,
It's up and running again for me too!
/Jacob
23 jan 2014 kl. 23:22 skrev "James" <james at slor.net>:
Looking fine for me. Perhaps a temporary glitch?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Lindberg
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 5:10 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Vintage-computer.com
Hello,
Is Erik Klein a member of this mailing list?
I noticed that the forum on his site vintage-computer.com is down due to a
database problem, or so the error message say.
/Jacob
5:22 p.m.
On 23 January 2014 20:39, drlegendre . <drlegendre at gmail.com> wrote:
No POP client - I'm using the stock Gmail web
front-end, so maybe that's
part of it.. I should take a look in the archives. Or more like, I need to
find out how to take a look in the archives, first.
So in other words, if nobody replied to my comments, it appears as if the
message never showed up - but only on my side.
Thanks folks!!
Normal for Gmail.
By the way, chaps, as you can see I'm on Gmail too, and it does
bottom-quote perfectly fine.
Either press Ctrl-A to Select All, so the collapsed text of the quoted
text expands, then you can move past it and quote below in the
approved fashion, or go into Settings, enable Labs, and tick the
feature "Quote selected text" by "Ryan A". Then, before you hit
Reply,
select the bit you're replying to. Only it is copied into your reply,
expanded, and the cursor is left below it.
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24 Jan
24 Jan
12:32 p.m.
On 01/23/2014 09:10 AM, James wrote:
I've been seeing them, and they're in the list
archive. If you're using a
pop3 email client, keep in mind that gmail is "smart" enough to not deliver
emails to your inbox that were actually sent by you.
I don't think it's ever done that for me - I always get my own messages
back. Maybe there's a config setting somewhere...
cheers
Jules
1:40 p.m.
There may be. It's also affected by whether or not you have your client set
up using "recent:" in front of your login username.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules Richardson
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:32 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Two of my recent posts aren't showing up..
On 01/23/2014 09:10 AM, James wrote:
> I've been seeing them, and they're in the list archive. If you're using
a
> pop3 email client, keep in mind that gmail is
"smart" enough to not
deliver
emails to your
inbox that were actually sent by you.
I don't think it's ever done that for me - I always get my own messages
back. Maybe there's a config setting somewhere...
cheers
Jules
2:21 p.m.
On 24 January 2014 17:32, Jules Richardson <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it's ever done that for me - I
always get my own messages
back. Maybe there's a config setting somewhere...
There is a "BCC to myself" option.
But no, mails from yourself normally only show up if someone replies,
or if sent back to you by a listserv, but then they're marked as read
on receipt.
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4:55 p.m.
On 01/24/2014 01:21 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 24 January 2014 17:32, Jules Richardson
<jules.richardson99 at gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, afaik it's always "just worked" for me. I'm afraid to go in via the
web interface to look at settings there in case it magically "upgrades" me
to a newer version where the feature stops working :)
I do find that threading for this list is utterly screwed up (e.g. "Who
built the first minicomputers" is split into a main thread and two separate
sub-threads, and within this thread there's also a sub-thread entitled
"Vintage-computer.com" which has no relevance), and I'm not sure where that
nonsense creeps in - e.g. if it's my mail client (Thunderbird), or gmail
trying to do something clever, or even the list software. I don't think it
happens on any of the other lists I'm on, just classiccmp. Drives me nuts
as I keep missing replies because they're elsewhere, or not seeing threads
because they're buried in another thread with a totally unrelated topic!
cheers
Jules
I don't think it's ever done that for me
- I always get my own messages
back. Maybe there's a config setting somewhere...
There is a "BCC to myself" option.
But no, mails from yourself normally only show up if someone replies,
or if sent back to you by a listserv, but then they're marked as read
on receipt. 
26 Jan
26 Jan
4:29 p.m.
I do find that threading for this list is utterly
screwed up (e.g.
[...]), and I'm not sure where that nonsense creeps in - e.g. if it's
my mail client (Thunderbird), or gmail trying to do something clever,
or even the list software.
I don't know whether it's relevant, but I do regularly see list mail
with syntactically invalid References: headers. Most often this is
because something has produced headers with commas instead of
whitespace between message-IDs; occasionally it's because a line
overflows SMTP's limit and gets broken, producing an unclosed
message-ID and then an unopened message-ID. If your client depends on
References: and the like for threading, this could be related.
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