On Sunday 28 April 2002 13:06, you wrote: Then why the feigned ignorance then ? and I feel some tugging at my lower extremities. In fact... hmmm afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# grep -l "nop.org" * 0058.html afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# grep -i "date" 0058.html <strong>Date:</strong> Wed Mar 01 2000 - 19:43:55 GMT Ya know, ive been on the Herc mail list for a while and ... afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# grep -l "ikickass.org" * grep: att-0581: Is a directory afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html/hercules-390-2000-Q1-Q3# cd ../ afu:/data1/OS/herc/mirror/Mail-archive-html# grep -sirl "ikickass.org" * You are not in my archives mirror at all I think you are blowin smoke up my Butt. And my error was where ? non-seq tosser too i see. Linux was not ported at marist, it was a skunkworks project @ IBM itself ( with much work done @ IBM Germany) Marist had the first starter kits. http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/04/25/2151204&mode=nocomment&… At age 28, Boas Betzler is known at IBM as the "grandfather" of Linux on the mainframe. In mid-1998, he began a port of Linux to the IBM zSeries, and he's shepherded the Linux mainframe project from the beginning to the first shipments. In porting Linux to an IBM mainframe, Betzler went against the grain both internally at IBM, where many saw Linux as a competitor to IBM's own mainframe operating system, and among many analysts outside of IBM, who suggested the port wasn't possible without a huge investment. Betzler's "fun" project has helped IBM record double-digit revenue growth for the first time in more than a decade You are not talking out of your usual orifice it seems, or perhaps you are. Was: Error in Marist large filesystem: Library symlinks Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:20:24 -0600 From: Raymond Moyers &lt;rmoyers(a)nop.org&gt; To: Linux on VM Port &lt;LINUX-VM(a)VM.MARIST.EDU&gt; Hmm seems ive deleted some of my older posts grr, o well they have a list archive too, and im in it, been on that list from near day one ... i dont seem to recall you there either. You are not talking out of your usual orifice it seems, or perhaps you are. you sound as if you had been locked in a glass house with an old 360/67 for 20 years and suddenly came out and spent the last day or so cramming for your last post. Common man, it isnt my aim to get in no pecker fight here, its just the exchange of experience projects and ideas, so why go to an extent of putting your integrity in question. bad move imo. IBM sales sure says otherwise, it has reversed a downward trend in sales in market conditions where the field elsewhere is not climbing. IBM gives direct credit to Linux on the 390 for this. Unix given a persona, being more GP than anything before seen on earth, would not claim to be "best" at anything. it would claim provably beyond all doubt, running on devices from wristwatch ( demoed by IBM ) to the mainframe, that it is good at more things than any other system can claim. Linux on the s390 bare metal would sure be incomplete, it dont have all the support from all the user written tools dealing with the specifics of that hardware, it still really needs VM under it to fill in it functional gaps. Thats the argument you could have made, so why am i the one making it. ( i dont see that condition existing forever tho, VM was no utilitarian cornacopia on the hacked 360/40 it was born on either, even VM370r6 cant run XEDIT because the full screen support is missing, but hey, VM got better and so will linux390) This last post from you was in the flavor that it seems you think i was attacking you or something, relax man, that isnt the case. Leftist moonies always translate disagreement with them into personal attacks, they call you racist, or go into their shout you down mode or .. Is that what this is ? Raymond -------------------------------------------------------