14 Jan
2002
14 Jan
'02
6:02 p.m.
Some wrote:
I've heard the following, to add to that list:
Pentium/Pentium II -- PowerPC
Pentium III -- PowerPC G3
Pentium IV -- PowerPC G4
FWIW
I'd bet a buck there's a LOT of disagreement on the list. Unfortunately,
there's just no adequate way to compare the full range of recent and current
mprocessors by looking for strict equivalencies. It would be interesting to
see a chart covering the relative relationships of processors in PeeCees,
Macs, and Minis (including Sun, SGI, RS/6000, etc.).
I had to chuckle at the poor dood who was lamenting his $10K investment in a
IIcx; most of us cry to think about what we paid for our old Morrow or
original IBM PC. What about those poor cats who paid huge $$ for Lisa or
other similar, short-lived concept/production models?
rb
=================
R. P. Bell
Email rpbell(a)earthlink.net
IIRC, the
general rule of thumb is:
8086 -- 68000
80286 -- 68020
80386 -- 68030
80486 -- 68040
Yes, and the 80186 -- 68010.
Both existed but were not popular in many systems. Both
equally quite rare in that regard.
Anyway, I added them for completeness. 
14 Jan
14 Jan
7:05 p.m.
I've heard the following, to add to that list:
Pentium/Pentium II -- PowerPC
Pentium III -- PowerPC G3
Pentium IV -- PowerPC G4
Iffy comparison, especially since the P4 really isn't all that great compared
to its predecessor, while the G4 if given AltiVec code can run rings around
its ancestor. I'd say suitably prompted "even a G3" could compete well with
all but the fastest x86s.
Also, the G1 and G2 PPCs were a mixed bag with regard to relative strengths
and merits ... and weaknesses. Apple's strange and sometimes stupid designs
didn't help (look at the 6200 series Power Macs). They are a very difficult
set of processors to pigeonhole or compare, even amongst each other.
--
----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --
Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu
-- Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. -- Oscar Wilde
7:26 p.m.
Some wrote:
>Yes, and the 80186 -- 68010.
>Both existed but were not popular in many systems. Both
>equally quite rare in that regard.
Eh? Rare? Not from what I've seen. Quite a few of the old Sun
workstations used the 68010 as the CPU, for example, and I've seen
80186 chips used as CPUs used in many devices (not necessarily
computers per se, but used in various computer boards and terminal
servers, etc.). Of course, perhaps we should just let the chip
collectors think that they're rare, and perhaps they'll just be
content with collecting a few of them and leaving the rest alone to
function in working equipment. :-)
Funny thought... how do you suppose the chip collectors feel if IC pin
collectors and IC insides collectors (people who might collect chips
to take them apart so as to display the innards with the cases
discarded) began to appear and start paying more for chips than
they were paying? Not that I like these ideas either.
--
Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals:
All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
8:15 p.m.
I had to chuckle at the poor dood who was lamenting
his $10K investment in a
IIcx; most of us cry to think about what we paid for our old Morrow or
original IBM PC. What about those poor cats who paid huge $$ for Lisa or
other similar, short-lived concept/production models?
I remember when I upgraded my Mac II from 2MB to 5MB. I paid
$1200 for four 1MB SIMMs, and that was with a price break of
$400. Now 1MB SIMMs are worth next to nothing.
I also bought a Mac IIfx, which was an evolutionary dead end.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
15 Jan
15 Jan
9:34 a.m.
original IBM PC. What about those poor cats who paid
huge $$ for Lisa or
other similar, short-lived concept/production models?
Hey, I'd love to have a one-off or small production concept
design...then again, I've always gone for the offbeat stuff. There's
always something interesting there.
Jeff
--
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.com
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
9:36 a.m.
I've heard the following, to add to that list:
Pentium/Pentium II -- PowerPC
Pentium III -- PowerPC G3
Pentium IV -- PowerPC G4
Man, I'd love to see a G4 running at the same clockspeed as
the PIV...the PIV would be smoked so bad it'd be unreal. As it is,
the G4 does a pretty good job holding it's own considering it's
running at 1/2 to 1/3 the clockspeed, not to mention a lot lower
power consumption and heat generation.
Jeff
--
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.com
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
8220
days inactive
8221
days old
5 comments
5 participants
participants (5)
-
dittman＠dittman.net -
jhellige＠earthlink.net -
rdd＠rddavis.org -
rpbell＠earthlink.net -
spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu