That's the way it is with most inexpensive home micros (I think the Commodore has one of the more complicated ways of doing it, since you need to know the drive ID). Most of them are truly out-of-the box. And then modern engineers came upon a working idea and decided to update it in such a way that it uses all that power new computers have more effectively. You know, I was impressed today that an MS Draw image that opened instantly for me to modify in a Word 2.0 document on a 386 took about 30 seconds in Word 97 on a Pentium-200. I dearly hope this doesn't stay this way. Why is it that one of the biggest headline-makers in computers, Linux, is 30 years old? And why can't they finally get object-oriented systems right? They've been trying to for decades, and there still isn't a good version of OLE/OpenDoc that is _really_ versatile. Flame away. dastar(a)siconic.com ---