On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote: First, are you doing a "REPLY", or a "create"/"Compose" new message? If you are doing a "REPLY", then you need to either reconfigure your email client program to a different configuration to include message being replied to, OR reconfigure your computer for a different email client. In the days when computers were REAL computers, email "client" programs defaulted to "quoting" and including the message being replied to. Unfortunately, that led to lazy people quoting the message, which quoted the previous message, which quoted the previous message, back through topic drift to include massive amounts of grossly irrelevant material. You had to scroll past the history of the world to get to the new message. The answer is to teach the lUsers to delete the irrelevant portions of the past messages, and trim the quoted content back to only what was needed to provide context. "teach people"??!? canonical example of exercise in futility! Rather than teach people, the makers of the email clients started to put the new content BEFORE the history of the world. Called "top posting". It's like a world of adolescents who don't wash their dishes, and end up using paper plates because every dish is dirty, and piled in the sink. Rather than try to get people to do it right, many "modern" mail clients include the history of the world, but hide it from view when reading mail. A short response, or even a "Me, too" is many KB or even MB long! It is further complicated by the advent of "multimedia", where form is higher priority than content. "Modern" email is more concerned with delivering the massage with "dancing kangaroos and yodelling jellyfish" than what the message says. "The medium is the massage"? In order to facilitate the latest multimedia silliness, with smell-o-vision, dancing kangaroos, and yodelling jellyfish, "modern" email clients encourage sending executable content with the email. Including Trojan Horses with cryptolocker, etc. On THIS list, we are lovers of the classics, and we cling to the concept that people CAN be taught to do things right, and even wash their dishes. We never leave untrimmed quoted content (well, hardly ever), and we bottom post. No attachments. You can post a link to content that won't render in ASCII. (we are, however, updated enough to be using ASCII, instead of Murray/Baudot) I guess that we prefer "the good old days". If John Titor is reading this, my offer still stands: I will come up with a 5100, with both APL AND BASIC, and set up a foundation to fund the entire project, in exchange for a ONE-WAY ride back 55 years. Round-trip only warrants a contribution towards a 5100. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com