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2013
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1:55 a.m.
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Subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:16:13 -0400
From: David Strom <dstrom at fastmail.net>
Reply-To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
To: rescue at sunhelp.org
I have a couple of Sparc 10s, maybe a 20, and external components,
disks, tape drives (4mm, 8mm, QIC) that I need to dispose of from my
personal collection of stuff. Our county has an electronics recycling
drop off in about 10 days.
Some Sbus cards, maybe a CPU, maybe a graphics card or two (PCI).
Is there anyone in the Northern New Jersey area that would want this
stuff for free? Pretty close to NYC, too.
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10 Oct
10 Oct
8:57 a.m.
Wasn't a whole lot of interest in this in our local (MARCH) list.
On 10/10/2013 01:55 AM, Kurt M. Nowak wrote:
Just forwarding... email original sender if
interested.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:16:13 -0400
From: David Strom <dstrom at fastmail.net>
Reply-To: The Rescue List <rescue at sunhelp.org>
To: rescue at sunhelp.org
I have a couple of Sparc 10s, maybe a 20, and external components,
disks, tape drives (4mm, 8mm, QIC) that I need to dispose of from my
personal collection of stuff. Our county has an electronics recycling
drop off in about 10 days.
Some Sbus cards, maybe a CPU, maybe a graphics card or two (PCI).
Is there anyone in the Northern New Jersey area that would want this
stuff for free? Pretty close to NYC, too.
10:08 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Evan Koblentz <evan at snarc.net> wrote:
Wasn't a whole lot of interest in this in our
local (MARCH) list.
Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list, and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Maybe the SPARC1 is old enough to have achieved "classic" status, and
*maybe* the SPARC2, and ov course, anything with a Motorola processor
will be snatched up (I don't "need" a Sun 3/80 (I have a Sun 3/60 to
restore - need to build a Sun4 keyboard/mouse adapter) but I wouldn't
want to let one get scrapped). There's not a lot of interest
presently in Sun3 and Sun4 stuff, but there's far less for the SPARC
gear. Maybe in a few years after folks have recycled closet after
closet of it and it starts getting scarce, but not right now.
-ethan
10:17 a.m.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Evan Koblentz
<evan at snarc.net> wrote:
Really? I'd happily give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. I like esoteric,
though and I think these quality.
Wasn't a whole lot of interest in this in our
local (MARCH) list.
Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list, and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Maybe the SPARC1 is old enough to have achieved
"classic" status, and
*maybe* the SPARC2, and ov course, anything with a Motorola processor
will be snatched up (I don't "need" a Sun 3/80 (I have a Sun 3/60 to
restore - need to build a Sun4 keyboard/mouse adapter) but I wouldn't
want to let one get scrapped). There's not a lot of interest
presently in Sun3 and Sun4 stuff, but there's far less for the SPARC
gear. Maybe in a few years after folks have recycled closet after
closet of it and it starts getting scarce, but not right now.
-ethan
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10:49 a.m.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I know folks in Columbus with Sun gear to give away. I'll see what is currently
heading for the curb.
-ethan
Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list,
and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Really? I'd happily give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. I like esoteric, though
and I think these quality.
10:53 a.m.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4
at gewt.net> wrote:
Cool! Thanks.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I know folks in Columbus with Sun gear to give away. I'll see what is currently
heading for the curb.
Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list,
and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Really? I'd happily give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. I like esoteric, though
and I think these quality. -ethan
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
11:02 a.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
Really?
I'd happily give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. I like esoteric, though
and I think these quality.
I know folks in Columbus with Sun gear to give away. I'll see what is currently
heading for the curb.
-ethan
11:25 a.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Katz <jon at jonworld.com> wrote:
I'm in Indy and I'll take some, too.
I have made inquiries. I'll see what bubbles to the surface.
-ethan
Really?
I'd happily give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. I like esoteric, though
and I think these quality.
I know folks in Columbus with Sun gear to give away. I'll see what is currently
heading for the curb. 
12:46 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Oct 10, 2013, at 16:49 , Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4
at gewt.net> wrote:
I have a Sun Blade 2500 (Red), with 8GB RAM, 2(!) XVR-1200 video cards and (possibly) a
72GB disk that I don't want/need (my enthusiasm waned when I discovered that Oracle is
much less enthusiast-friendly than Sun used to be). This machine is in Stavanger, Norway -
free to anybody who can collect it.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I know folks in Columbus with Sun gear to give away. I'll see what is currently
heading for the curb.
-ethan Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list,
and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Really? I'd happily give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. I like esoteric, though
and I think these quality. 
11 Oct
11 Oct
7:39 a.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w? blade över kölen
tor 2013-10-10 klockan 18:46 +0200 skrev Raymond Wiker:
On Oct 10, 2013, at 16:49 , Ethan Dicks
<ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
Freight to Sweden (Sk?vde ?)
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Cory Smelosky
<b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
I have a Sun Blade 2500 (Red), with 8GB RAM, 2(!) XVR-1200 video cards and (possibly) a
72GB disk that I don't want/need (my enthusiasm waned when I discovered that Oracle is
much less enthusiast-friendly than Sun used to be). This machine is in Stavanger, Norway -
free to anybody who can collect it. On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
I know folks in Columbus with Sun gear to give away. I'll see what is currently
heading for the curb.
-ethan Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list,
and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Really? I'd happily give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. I like esoteric, though
and I think these quality. 
10 Oct
10 Oct
11:52 a.m.
Wasn't a whole lot of interest in this in our
local (MARCH) list.
Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list, and anything
that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for. 
12:38 p.m.
On 10 October 2013 16:52, Mouse <mouse at rodents-montreal.org> wrote:
If there were an easy way to use a type-3 with a
peecee, that would be
an option. But I tried that - the hardware interfacing is easy, but
peecee X servers aren't generally interested in talking to a Sun
keyboard on a serial port. I managed to bodge it into one, but lost
autorepeat in the process, which isn't really an acceptable tradeoff
for me. I contemplated building a layer to make it look like a PS/2
keyboard to the X server, but peecee keyboards are so different from
Sun keyboards, at least type-3 keyboards, that doing that would lose
much of the point.
This does seem to be a common comment, but there are both commercial
and DIY ways around it.
$50 USB adapter: http://www.vpi.us/usb-sun.html
(Possibly from here: http://www.networktechinc.com/optn-stu.html#sun )
DIY:
http://kentie.net/article/sunkbd/
(Newer version with volume support but less info:
http://kentie.net/article/sunmark2/ )
& some more info:
http://www.buzzard.me.uk/jonathan/sunkbd.html
Additional info:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Sun_Type_5
Also note the comments re Linux usage here:
http://www.bedroomlan.org/hardware/sun-keyboards-usb
(This should "just work" on modern Linuxes. In theory.)
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3:45 p.m.
On 10/10/2013 10:52 AM, Mouse wrote:
Really? I'd happily
give 32-bit SPARC gear a home.
In general, I will too
Me too; a SPARC 2 was the first "real" computer I used when I went to uni
in 1993 - prior to that it had all been PCs / Mac / 8-bitters (oh, and an
Amiga).
I doubt they're particularly cheap to ship, though, and there's ~ 0% chance
of any Sun hardware showing up within easy pickup distance.
cheers
Jules
Wasn't a
whole lot of interest in this in our local (MARCH) list.
Unsurprising. I'm on
the Suns-at-Home list, and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for. 
3:52 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
I have some sparc 5's, some ultra-10s and maybe a few others,in toronto area, still
trying to get rid of.
along with an Octane (heavy beast)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:45:36 -0500
From: jules.richardson99 at gmail.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On 10/10/2013 10:52 AM, Mouse wrote:
In general, I will too
Me too; a SPARC 2 was the first "real" computer I used when I went to uni
in 1993 - prior to that it had all been PCs / Mac / 8-bitters (oh, and an
Amiga).
I doubt they're particularly cheap to ship, though, and there's ~ 0% chance
of any Sun hardware showing up within easy pickup distance.
cheers
Jules
> Wasn't a whole lot of interest in this in our
local (MARCH) list.
Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list, and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Really? I'd happily
give 32-bit SPARC gear a home.
4:05 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
I have some sparc 5's, some ultra-10s and maybe a
few others,in toronto area, still trying to get rid of.
along with an Octane (heavy beast)
If you want to give the Octane a home I would take it...but I don't have
the cash for it. ;(
--
Cory Smelosky
http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
3:56 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Oct 10, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Jules Richardson <jules.richardson99 at gmail.com>
wrote:
On 10/10/2013 10:52 AM, Mouse wrote:
In general, I will too
Me too; a SPARC 2 was the first "real" computer I used when I went to uni in
1993 - prior to that it had all been PCs / Mac / 8-bitters (oh, and an Amiga).
I doubt they're particularly cheap to ship, though, and there's ~ 0% chance of
any Sun hardware showing up within easy pickup distance.
Well, SparcStation 10s and 20s are pretty small. Think the size of a
tall pizza box, or a Mac LC. Nice machines.
- Dave
> Wasn't a whole lot of interest in this in our
local (MARCH) list.
Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list, and anything that has a
32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
Really? I'd happily
give 32-bit SPARC gear a home. 
12 Oct
12 Oct
2:39 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:52:21 -0400 (EDT), Mouse <mouse at rodents-montreal.org>
wrote:
If there were an easy way to use a type-3 with a
peecee, that would be
an option. But I tried that - the hardware interfacing is easy, but
peecee X servers aren't generally interested in talking to a Sun
keyboard on a serial port. I managed to bodge it into one, but lost
autorepeat in the process, which isn't really an acceptable tradeoff
for me. I contemplated building a layer to make it look like a PS/2
keyboard to the X server, but peecee keyboards are so different from
Sun keyboards, at least type-3 keyboards, that doing that would lose
much of the point.
I don't know if it actually works with a Type 3 keyboard, but the Linux
kernel supports Types 4 and 5 keyboards with the sunkbd module and the help
of inputattach (in your favourite distribution or at
http://sf.net/projects/linuxconsole).
Regards,
Stephen
3:30 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On 12 October 2013 19:39, Stephen Kitt <lists at sk2.org> wrote:
I don't know if it actually works with a Type 3
keyboard, but the Linux
kernel supports Types 4 and 5 keyboards with the sunkbd module and the help
of inputattach (in your favourite distribution or at
http://sf.net/projects/linuxconsole).
I have a Type 5 & 2 mice for sale at the moment, too. :-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271295281648
(Sorry for the spam.)
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4:54 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013, Liam Proven wrote:
On 12 October 2013 19:39, Stephen Kitt <lists at
sk2.org> wrote:
Damn. I need that but I'll et sniped at the last second for sure. :(
I don't know if it actually works with a Type
3 keyboard, but the Linux
kernel supports Types 4 and 5 keyboards with the sunkbd module and the help
of inputattach (in your favourite distribution or at
http://sf.net/projects/linuxconsole).
I have a Type 5 & 2 mice for sale at the moment, too. :-)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271295281648
(Sorry for the spam.)
--
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
5:09 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
Cory,
I'll mention that you are looking for mice and keyboards, too.
No direct word back on local Sun machines, but I know there are Ultras
(not as sure about older stuff yet).
-ethan
I have a Type
5 & 2 mice for sale at the moment, too. :-)
Damn. I need that but I'll et sniped at the last second for sure. :(
5:22 p.m.
New subject: [rescue] What to do with old Sun h/w?
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4
at gewt.net> wrote:
Cory,
I'll mention that you are looking for mice and keyboards, too.
Cool, thanks! You can save me a bit of cash.
I have a
Type 5 & 2 mice for sale at the moment, too. :-)
Damn. I need that but I'll et sniped at the last second for sure. :( No direct word back on local Sun machines, but I know
there are Ultras
(not as sure about older stuff yet).
Okay! Let me know.
-ethan
--
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http://gewt.net Personal stuff
http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects
13 Oct
13 Oct
5:18 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Evan Koblentz <evan at snarc.net> wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't a whole lot of interest in this in our local (MARCH) list.
>
>
> Unsurprising. I'm on the Suns-at-Home list, and anything that has a
> 32-bit SPARC processor is very hard to find homes for.
I quite like the 32-bit SPARC gear. An SS20 with two framebuffers and
a pair of GDM-5410
CRTs running Solaris 7 was my main machine back in 2002-4.
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