All, I'm looking for a final accurate answer. When the Apple II's came out, the keyboard had a power-light that looked like a lit up key at the keyboard's lower left corner, below the shift key. Apple II+'s had a power-light that was (nearly) flush with the case. See these for comparison: http://www.vectronicsappleworld.com/ads/ads/appleii/howto2.jpg http://www.computercloset.org/apple2Plus.htm The question: Did Apple ever produce II's with this flush-power-light keyboard? I know the II and II+ lines were sold concurrently, so it doesn't surprise me if, for a time, the hardware was identical. All I've read (and which sounds definitive) the only initial difference was the ROMs. See the 1980 price list mid page two: http://www.barse.org/blog/archives/apple1980pricelist.pdf . In time, the II+'s motherboard's did go through changes Other, slightly related info It has an Apple II 16K model #: A2S0016. The motherboard is a Rev 4, which, if I understand it correctly, was used for both II and II+'s. The silkscreen on the MB near the "apple computer inc" text (above ROMs) says 1978. The manufacture date code (handprinted on MB corner near slot 0) is 7928-- 28th week (mid July) 1979. It has the AppleSoft/Auto-Start ROMs, but these were available as an upgrade. (The previous owner also added memory to 48K plus a language card). Oh yeah, the previous owner lost the lid!! All this is consistent with it being an Apple II. BUT one kicker is that the keyboard has a (nearly) flush power light that are used in II+'s. Thanks, Scott