Well, after swinging past Dave Woyciesjes' a week ago Saturday, I now have 2 HP DeskJet Plus' and 1 HP DeskJet 500 (Thanks Dave =] ). Nifty little Inkers, I loved those series because I could never get them to die. I also have acquired though other sources an old NYNEX telecom box that appears to be for Digital Lines (from Demarc to RJ48 and out to a cable that has RJ48 on one end and a custom pinned (?) DB15 with 6 actual pins connected that I'd have to assume is either RS232 or V.35. The unit was taken off a wall in an abandoned office my co. had gone into to rewire for new owners. I have also acquired more DB9 to Type 1 "vampire" Token Ring cables, approximately 2 meters long in the same job. Anyone interested in the box and cable or the Token cables since I literally have about 10 of them? Possibly in trade for a Madge PCI Token Ring NIC or so? Also, anyone know of a device to cross the gap between Token Ring and Ethernet, such as a bridge? I'm looking to have my 16/4 Token Ring talk to a non-upgrade-able Ethernet system and have it go out to my broadband connection. Any ideas? I apologize ahead of time for not immediately replying, for I am in the middle of a stubborn upgrade of my PC motherboard to a Bio-Star M7VKD Pro from my failing ABIT KT7A, so since documentation, etc. are not fully abundant, it may be a day or two before I read the list again. -John ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html - site down for maintainance ---------------------------------------