Humm... I think I might have a 5150, 5160, and a 5170 around as well (actually, I KNOW I have a few 5170's left... but only two or three, the rest were dumpstered, or stripped for parts). I don't think my 5150 works, but it is an original "IBM PC" (I know the matching monochrome monitor for it is broken, just displays a bright white line down the middle). I would have to search and see if I have a 5160, or just XT clones (again, they might have all been dumpstered). Yup... sitting on the other side of my desk is a 5170, the case is open, and it is on its side, currently supporting the Wyse 60 terminal I was questioning (and making the 5170's video card bow pretty bad under the weight of the terminal). I know, some people might be cringing at my abuse of it... but the ATs are worthless to me (outside of the fact that you can stick a pentium baby AT logic board in it, and reuse the case and power supply... I think that is where most of my 5170's went) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>