*** On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu wrote: CLASSICCMP Digest 101 *:Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:27:36 +0000 *:From: jpero(a)mail.cgo.wave.ca *:To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu *:Subject: Re: Strange Tandy 1000HX *:Message-ID: <199707011827.OAA28789(a)mail.cgocable.net> *:MIME-Version: 1.0 *:Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII *:Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT *: *:Jeff, *: *:> I don't see much point in this though since the HX's controller won't *:> handle the 1.44 meg drive anyway. Plus, it'd be easy enough to add a floppy *:> drive to it, but supposedly neither knock-out plate has been punched out *:> behind either of the drive bays! This is what prompted my original post. *:Why not check out the external 5.25" internals? Point is, can use *:those easier to obtain 1.44mb drives and use them as 720k in old XT's *:in place of harder to find 720k drives. I did that just like that *:in one of those IBM XT using its original controller and a brand new *:20 bux 1.44 in PC that allowed me to fire it up with my 720k Dos 5.0 *:and install it to hd also allows user to interchange data with newer *:pcs easily. 360k was 40 tracks by 9 sectors, 720k used 80 tracks but *:the older controller controlled this drives no problem therefore *:any newer 1.44 will work as a 720k duty. In fact, 1.44 and 720k *:drives only differs in minor ways: higher frequency heads, extra *:sensor put in to support the 18 sectors. *: *:BIG snap! *: *:> Actually, it's an 8088 running at like 7.16mhz I *:> believe. One needs the *:> PLUS Memory board to add the memory above 256k, the DMA functions, and the two *:> additional PLUS connectors for the additional cards. That's a neat idea about *:> the SCSI though...heck, it'd be a cinch fitting one of the newer drives into *:> one of the 1" x 3-1/2" drive bays. The only problem would be power to the *:> drive, since as you've already mentioned, Tandy likes to send the power *:> through the ribbon cable. *:Thanks for correction and oddball mHz? Most clones uses 8mHz. *:If you could look in external drive, it might have adapter wirings *:that will allow you to make new cables adapters for that "1.44" as *:720k drives to put in your HX machine. *:--- *: *:Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:23:38 -0700 (PDT) *:From: Bill Whitson <bill(a)booster.bothell.washington.edu> *:To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu *:Subject: FAQ Bonanza *:Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91a.970701212249.14727D-100000(a)booster.bothell.washington.edu> *:Mime-Version: 1.0 *:Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII *: *:============================================================================= *: DO NOT DISPOSE OF THIS PART OF THE FAQ. THIS IS THE PART THAT EXPLAINS HOW *: YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE AND UNSUBSCRIBE. IT WILL TAKE ME MORE TIME TO DO THESE *: THINGS FOR YOU THAN IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO DO THEM YOURSELF *:============================================================================= *:ClassicCmp - The Classic Computers Discussion List *:Part 1 in the ClassicCmp FAQ Trilogy *:Mail/Internet Basics FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) v1.2 *:Last Update: 7/01/97 *:----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *:This FAQ is written with the primary purpose of making readily available *:answers to the more common questions appearing on ClassicCmp. It is *:Maintained by Bill Whitson <bill(a)booster.u.washington.edu>du>. The infor- *:mation in this document has been gathered from a variety of sources but, *:in general, the members of ClassicCmp should be credited for all contain- *:ed herein. I have, of course, endeavored to be as accurate as is possible *:and often failed ;). *: *:This FAQ is Part 1 of the ClassicCmp FAQ Trilogy. The information presented *:deals with the use of mailing lists and internet-specific tools. *: *:If you have questions, comments, or corrections (always welcome) please *:contact me at the address above. *: *:A current copy of this FAQ is available on the web at http://weber.u. *:washington.edu/~bcw/ccl.html or via anonymous FTP at 140.142.225.27 in the *:directory /pub/classiccmp/faqs as classiccmp.faq. *:---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *:Updates: New Sections: 2.1, 3.1 *:----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *:1. Mailing Lists *:---------------- *:1.1 Mailing List Basics *:1.2 How to Talk to the Robot *: How to set to Digest *: How to Subscribe *: How to Unsubscribe *: *:2. FTP *:------ *:2.1 FTP Basics *: *:3. World Wide Web *:----------------- *:3.1 WWW Basics *: *:============================================================================= *:1.1 Mailing List Basics *: *:A mailing list is a simple device which takes an e-mail and redistributes it *:to a group of people. People can add and remove themselves from the *:distribution list by Subscribing and Unsubscribing. When you send a message *:to the list, it is first examined by the robot for key words that tell it *:to process an automatic funtion (like help, subscribe, unsubscribe, etc). *:If the message does not contain a keyword it is sent to the distribution *:list. *: *:1.2 How to Talk to the Robot *: *:There are a few List Processor commands that you might want to use. To *:send a command to the list processor, write a message to *: listproc(a)u.washington.edu *:(Do NOT send the message to classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu). In the body of *:the message (not the subject line, that is) write one of the following *:commands, then send the message. *: *:SET CLASSICCMP MAIL ACK *: *: Tells the robot to send you a copy of messages you *: write to the list. This is the default. *: *:SET CLASSICCMP MAIL NOACK *: *: Tells the robot NOT to send you a copy of messages *: you write to the list. I don't recommend this. *: *:SET CLASSICCMP MAIL DIGEST *: *: Tells the robot to send you a digest of messages *: rather than each as it is posted. With this option *: you will get a weekly bundle of messages and keep *: a nice, tidy in-box. *: *:SUBSCRIBE CLASSICCMP Your.Address *: *: Subscribes you to the list. *: *:UNSUBSCRIBE CLASSICCMP Your.Address *: *: Removes you from the list. *: *:[][][][][][][][][][] *: *:2.1 FTP Basics *: *:FTP is a protocol by which files can be transferred over the internet. *:You can use FTP to connect to a remote site and retrieve files. The *:commands you use with FTP depend on the software you use. In general *:you must make sure that you are in BINARY mode before transferring a *:program file or compressed files. The process of downloading a file *:is usually termed GET and the process of uploading a file is usually *:termed PUT. *: *:Your FTP program will require an address to connect to. For the *:ClassicCmp site that address is 140.142.225.27. *: *:You then may be asked to log in (unless your program assumes an *:anonymous login). When asked for a name, use anonymous. When asked *:for a password enter your internet e-mail address. *: *:[][][][][][][][][][] *: *:3.1 WWW Basics *: *:The only complicated thing with the WWW is knowing what bells *:and whistles your web browser supports. You don't really need to *:know much other than the address for ClassicCmp. The web site is *:all text which means just about any web browser from the oldest *:Lynx to the newest Netscape or Microsoft browser should support it. *: *:The ClassicCmp site is http://weber.u.washington.edu/~bcw/ccl.html. *:--- *:Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 00:36:55 -0500 *:From: Allen Underdown <wbrco(a)valuenet.net> *:To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu *:Subject: Re: Flex for 6809/6800 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *:Message-ID: <33B9E8F7.7C5A(a)valuenet.net> *:MIME-Version: 1.0 *:Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii *:Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *: *:Benedict Chong wrote: *:> Does anyone know if one can still get Flex for the 6809 or 6800? *:> There're people archiving and using CP/M stuff but it seems a waste to *:> let a very simple and neat OS like Flex go the way of the dinosaur. *:> *:> Ben *: *:Don't worry, I have several copys... *:-- *:| Allen Underdown - wbrco(a)valuenet.net | *:| Amateur Radio Operator - N0GOM, computer geek, | *:| homebrewer and outdoor enthusiast! | *:| http://lakers.cybercon.com/wurmborn | *: *:---