9 Feb
1999
9 Feb
'99
4:28 a.m.
You have an Intel 4004? Where did you obtain this?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ethan Dicks <erd(a)infinet.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: Intel 4004
I would *love* some 4004 tools. I have a 4004 that I plan to build
into a project someday. It came out of a non-UPC grocery store barcode
scanner I bought at the Dayton Hamfest in 1983.
Thanks,
-ethan
From: Dwight Elvey <elvey(a)hal.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Intel 4004
> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 11:43 AM
>
> Hi All
> I have gotten my 4004 development unit up and running.
> In doing so, I made some tools. I have a simple
> assembler, disassembler and a simulator. If anyone
> would like copies of these tools, let me know.
> Dwight 
4:44 a.m.
Hans Franke wrote:
Speaking of 4004, does anyone in Europe have a 4004 system board that
they would be willing to lend to a Grenoble, France museum for a
computer history exhibition?
Regards,
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Hans B Pufal Comprehensive Computer Catalogue
<mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> <http://digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc>
> > You have an Intel 4004? Where did you
obtain this?
Everybody in
the Valley has a bunch of them, David. We get them at Fry's.
Why do I have a strong negative feeling against you at some moments ? 
1:01 p.m.
On 12 Feb 99 at 18:40, Hans Franke wrote:
It's normal. Everyone feels resentment against Californians from time to
time.
Mind you, when you consider that mudslides, Santa Ana induced firestorms,
earthquakes, and the inevitable slide into the Pacific make things a little
less desirable, even with the presence of "California Girls", you CAN feel
fortunate at not being there.
ciao larry
Wasn't it the "Chink" in "Even Cowgirls Get The Blues" that
described the
indians amazeness at the crazy whitemen who sit there waiting for it to happen?
ciao larry
lwalker(a)interlog.com
> You have
an Intel 4004? Where did you obtain this?
Everybody in the Valley has a bunch of them,
David. We get them at Fry's.
Why do I have a strong negative feeling against you at some moments ?
H.
6:22 p.m.
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Lawrence Walker wrote:
It's normal. Everyone feels resentment against
Californians from time
to time. Mind you, when you consider that mudslides, Santa Ana induced
firestorms, earthquakes, and the inevitable slide into the Pacific make
things a little less desirable, even with the presence of "California
Girls", you CAN feel fortunate at not being there.
Exactly! California is a *very* dangerous place to be. Stay home!
In truth, there are a few more computers here than the national average,
but the number of geeks here who want those computers is *much* higher
than the national average.
When Xerox gave a demo of the old Star 8010 last year, several hundred
people showed up. Their two overflow rooms overflowed and they had to
turn people away. Where else could this happen? As far as I know, the
only publicity for the event was word of mouth.
All of the "spots" here are completely picked-over. That's why 3 out 4
old computer bidders at ebay are Silicon Valley locals.
-- Doug
10:09 p.m.
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Doug wrote:
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Lawrence Walker wrote:
Wish I was there. Back home in Los Angeles you only have to shovel
earthquake debris once or twice a century. Here in New Jersey you
have to shovel snow at least a couple of times a year, and the last
several winters have been milder than "normal". (Thank whatever
gods there might be for global warming).
--
Ward Griffiths
"the timid die just like the daring; and if you don't take the plunge then
you'll just take the fall" Michael Longcor
It's normal. Everyone feels resentment
against Californians from time
to time. Mind you, when you consider that mudslides, Santa Ana induced
firestorms, earthquakes, and the inevitable slide into the Pacific make
things a little less desirable, even with the presence of "California
Girls", you CAN feel fortunate at not being there.
Exactly! California is a
*very* dangerous place to be. Stay home! 
13 Feb
13 Feb
1:33 a.m.
New subject: Need Civilization Pointers... (was: Re: Intel 4004)
Once upon a midnight dreary, Ward D. Griffiths III had spoken clearly:
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Doug wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Lawrence Walker wrote:
> > It's normal. Everyone feels resentment against Californians from time
> > to time. Mind you, when you consider that mudslides, Santa Ana induced
> > firestorms, earthquakes, and the inevitable slide into the Pacific make
> > things a little less desirable, even with the presence of "California
> > Girls", you CAN feel fortunate at not being there.
> Exactly! California is a *very* dangerous place
to be. Stay home!
No offense, but my father (who has been there several times) says it's
dangerous for the same reason he calls California "the land of Fruits and
Nuts." There seems to be a higher-than-normal percentage of folks who are
"not mainstream." Having never been there, I cannot speak from
experience... but my wife has an aunt that's lived out there for over 30
years, and... well... while I do enjoy her visits, I am rather happy when
she does go home. ;-)
Wish I was there. Back home in Los Angeles you only
have to shovel
earthquake debris once or twice a century. Here in New Jersey you
have to shovel snow at least a couple of times a year, and the last
several winters have been milder than "normal". (Thank whatever
gods there might be for global warming).
Aaaawwwww, Poor Ward! Shovel snow a couple times a year??? How's 'bout a
couple times a week, for 5-6 months? Erm, that's why I own a snowblower.
Yes, it's desolate... Yes, it's remote. Yes, the travel costs (more than
just gas... there's time, wear & tear on the vehicle & driver, etc...) are
nasty when you have to travel to "civilization," like I have to do this
weekend (headed for Detroit for a funeral), but it's also quiet, and the
biggest crime in my neighborhood over the last 6 months was speeding
(usually mine... ;-) & the neighbor's dog taking a walkabout thru my yard.
Great for me, sux for my hobby.
Anyone in MoTown giving anything away that'll fit in the back of my Chevy
Astro? (wink, wink)
See ya,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
9 Feb
9 Feb
5:23 p.m.
On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, David Freibrun wrote:
You have an Intel 4004? Where did you obtain this?
The answer is right inside the message to which you are replying. Look...
>I would *love* some 4004 tools. I have a 4004
that I plan to build
>into a project someday. It came out of a non-UPC grocery store barcode
>scanner I bought at the Dayton Hamfest in 1983.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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