2 Feb
2018
2 Feb
'18
12:07 p.m.
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 12:55:41 -0500
From: Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at comcast.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Subject: VMS 8.4 Alpha Hobbyist disk images
Message-ID: <92b4de6a-b537-4bfb-a1fd-1ebe8133f11a at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I'm getting an Alphaserver 1000a and wanted to install VMS 8.4 -
hobbyist license from CD.
So, I went to the folder on my PC where I have the 8.4 hobbyist
distribution.? There are 3 ISO files; ALPHA084, ALPHA084LP1 and
ALPHA084LP2.
I thought I would burn these to CD and up and away.? However, Windows 7
balks and says, 'The selected disc image file isn't valid'.
Is it Windows 7 or is there something I'm missing?? Is the CD on the
Alphaserver 2048 byte block size or 512?
Doug
They _are_ 'ISO' images but in a format which Windows 7 or whatever burning
program you're using doesn't understand.
I used Nero (or Daemon I think) to write CDs for my VAX but there will be
plenty of other programs equally suitable.
You don't need to do anything special, just treat them as an ISO image and
let the burning software get on with it.
Once written, Windows won't be able to read them so don't panic. If the
burning software includes verification then it (not Windows) will be able to
read them back OK.
(I'm using VMS v7.3 but I'm sure this is no different).
Generally AFAIK the CD readers on Vaxes (Vaxen - ugh!!) and Alphas will
deliver 512 byte blocks but this isn't relevant for the image itself.
Bob
2 Feb
2 Feb
12:11 p.m.
https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home
CDBurnerXP is the one to use - as recommended by Stephen Hoffman himself.
Mark.
On 2 February 2018 at 20:07, Robert Adamson via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Date: Thu, 1
Feb 2018 12:55:41 -0500
From: Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at comcast.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Subject: VMS 8.4 Alpha Hobbyist disk images
Message-ID: <92b4de6a-b537-4bfb-a1fd-1ebe8133f11a at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I'm getting an Alphaserver 1000a and wanted to install VMS 8.4 -
hobbyist license from CD.
So, I went to the folder on my PC where I have the 8.4 hobbyist
distribution.? There are 3 ISO files; ALPHA084, ALPHA084LP1 and
ALPHA084LP2.
I thought I would burn these to CD and up and away.? However, Windows 7
balks and says, 'The selected disc image file isn't valid'.
Is it Windows 7 or is there something I'm missing?? Is the CD on the
Alphaserver 2048 byte block size or 512?
Doug
They _are_ 'ISO' images but in a format which Windows 7 or whatever burning
program you're using doesn't understand.
I used Nero (or Daemon I think) to write CDs for my VAX but there will be
plenty of other programs equally suitable.
You don't need to do anything special, just treat them as an ISO image and
let the burning software get on with it.
Once written, Windows won't be able to read them so don't panic. If the
burning software includes verification then it (not Windows) will be able
to
read them back OK.
(I'm using VMS v7.3 but I'm sure this is no different).
Generally AFAIK the CD readers on Vaxes (Vaxen - ugh!!) and Alphas will
deliver 512 byte blocks but this isn't relevant for the image itself.
Bob
1:16 p.m.
Notice: Downloaded this from the link and Norton says it is a virus. PUA.InstallCore
Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
________________________________
From: cctech <cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org> on behalf of Mark Wickens via cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 12:11 PM
To: Robert Adamson; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: VMS 8.4 Alpha Hobbyist disk images
https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home
CDBurnerXP is the one to use - as recommended by Stephen Hoffman himself.
Mark.
On 2 February 2018 at 20:07, Robert Adamson via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Date: Thu, 1
Feb 2018 12:55:41 -0500
From: Douglas Taylor <dj.taylor4 at comcast.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Subject: VMS 8.4 Alpha Hobbyist disk images
Message-ID: <92b4de6a-b537-4bfb-a1fd-1ebe8133f11a at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I'm getting an Alphaserver 1000a and wanted to install VMS 8.4 -
hobbyist license from CD.
So, I went to the folder on my PC where I have the 8.4 hobbyist
distribution.? There are 3 ISO files; ALPHA084, ALPHA084LP1 and
ALPHA084LP2.
I thought I would burn these to CD and up and away.? However, Windows 7
balks and says, 'The selected disc image file isn't valid'.
Is it Windows 7 or is there something I'm missing?? Is the CD on the
Alphaserver 2048 byte block size or 512?
Doug
They _are_ 'ISO' images but in a format which Windows 7 or whatever burning
program you're using doesn't understand.
I used Nero (or Daemon I think) to write CDs for my VAX but there will be
plenty of other programs equally suitable.
You don't need to do anything special, just treat them as an ISO image and
let the burning software get on with it.
Once written, Windows won't be able to read them so don't panic. If the
burning software includes verification then it (not Windows) will be able
to
read them back OK.
(I'm using VMS v7.3 but I'm sure this is no different).
Generally AFAIK the CD readers on Vaxes (Vaxen - ugh!!) and Alphas will
deliver 512 byte blocks but this isn't relevant for the image itself.
Bob
6 Feb
6 Feb
10 a.m.
On 2 February 2018 at 22:16, Wayne S via cctech <cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Notice: Downloaded this from the link and Norton says
it is a virus. PUA.InstallCore
Please bottom-quote on mailing lists.
Are you running an ad-blocker? If not, you should.
I recommend UBlock Origin.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock
AdBlock+ works but takes a lot of RAM.
UBlock is a dodgy fork of the original program and should be avoided.
I am wondering if you are using bad/fake download sites that are
serving compromised files. I used to work in support for AVG a couple
of years ago and this was a common problem -- banner ads with bigger,
more prominent "click here to download" buttons than the _actual_
download button on otherwise-reputable sites.
I have seen this issue with several 100% legit freeware tools,
including on Google itself. I told someone to download Produkey, a
free tool that extracts product IDs and licence keys from Windows. The
person I was advising -- a moderately tech-literate personal friend of
high intelligence -- does not run an ad-blocker and was missing the
_actual_ Google result and clicking on a banner ad by mistake which
was taking him to a fake download site which contained malware and
requested payment.
CD Burner XP and ImgBurn are both legit. I used both for many years. I
no longer use Windows unless someone pays me to do so, but both were
valid tools.
The download site for CD Burner XP is here:
https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home
ImgBurn is also legit. The download site is here:
http://www.imgburn.com/
Win10 obsoletes them both by including ISO burning directly, IIRC, but
it's entirely possible that it can't handle a non-standard CD image
that doesn't contain an ISO9660 filesystem. Recently I have had
problems trying to "burn" bootable drives containing AROS and
A2/Bluebottle to USB because no burn tool recognises those OSes'
filesystems.
For writing Windows 10 itself to USB, I use Rufus, but I don't think
it supports optical media.
--
Liam Proven ? Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lproven at gmail.com
Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven ? Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven
UK: +44 7939-087884 ? ?R (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
2472
days inactive
2476
days old
3 comments
4 participants
participants (4)
-
bob＠theadamsons.co.uk -
lproven＠gmail.com -
mark＠wickensonline.co.uk -
Wayne.Sudol＠hotmail.com