I have an HP9836CU (series 9000/200) without monitor cable.
I know it well....
Althoguh there were a few things I forgot (!) to mention last night...
The computer seem to boot up, the monitor, when
powered, has no
activity.
That is correct. One of the pins on the DA15 connector on the computer is
a 12V power ouptu. On the 9836A, it powers the monochrome monitor. On
the 9836C, it operate s a relay (actually a pair of relaus, for soem
unknown reaosn) on the monitor PSU board, which conencts mains to the rest
of the SMPSU.
There's a bit more to it than that. There's a power transsitor (Q15,
TIP41A) on the PSU board. The emitter goes to the relay coils (and then to
logic groudn), the base goes to this 12V power output from the computer
and the collector goes to the power supply rail for the chopper control
circuitry.
When the PSU is not running, this transitor acts like a couple of diodes.
It passes the 12V from the comptuer to the relay coils (b-e junction),
turning on the mains. It also passes the 12V to the chopper control IC
(via the b-c junction). The chopper controller starts up, the choppers
chop (if you see what I mean), and the PSU produces the correct output
voltages. One of these ouptuts (about 15V I think) then powers the chopper
control circuit.
At this point, the transisotr acts like a conventional emitter follwoer,
powering the relay from this PSU output, controleld by the computer 13V
line. When the comptuer turns off, the relays are thus de-energised and
the whole thing shuts down.
One neice feature of this supply is that the chopper control IC is on the
isolated (output) side, the outputs are coupled by pulse transformers ot
the chopper transsistors. It's a relativeily benign PSU to work on.
The cable (15 pin Dsub male to male) is pin to
pin ? all pin used ?
It is pin-pin, I can't remember if all pins are used (but read on...). I
am pretty sure it was special cable, the 3 video signals were wires with
(75 ohm?) coax, the other signals with just plain wires, Oh, and an
overall screen. One source of a suitable cable may be the stuff used in
the UK (and Europe) to make the batter types of SCART lead, I think you
can buy that by the metre over here.
> I'm going to build the cable, but I'm not sure about pinout
Here's the pinout :
1 : Blue ground (screen of cable for pin 9)
2 : Green groudn (screen of cable for pin 10)
3 : Logic ground (not used)
4 : Logic ground
5 : -12V from computer (not used)
6 : Logic ground
7 : +12V from computer (PSU switching/startup)
8 : Overall screen ground
9 : Blue signal (wire with coax, screen to pin 1)
10 : Green signal (wire with coax, screen to pin 2)
11 : Horizontal sync
12 : Red signal (wire with coax, screen to pin 13)
13 : Red ground (screen of cable on pin 12)
14 : Vertical blanking
15 : Vertical sync
You don't have to wire pins 3 and 5, but it doesn't hurt if you do. All
other pins must be wired straight-through, note commentso n screens
(shields) etc.
There is a
service manual with circuit diagrams ?
I've found only the manual on the HP Australian museum, but is a board
level manual.
The official service manuals is a boardsapper guide, but there is a
useful appendix giving the pinotus of the conenctors. There are a few
errors in it though (in partciluar, the pinotu for the quad screedn cable
that links the output conenctor on the video board (under the LH disk
drive) to the conenctor on the mothrboard (and thense to the DA15 socket)
is clearly nonsense.
There should be a set of my schematics on the same site. They may well be
under the HP9826, the 2 machines are closely related so I preodcued one
It seeemd ot be there (under HP9826) when I checked earlier. Of course, I
never need to look at them there, I haev a copy of the 'originals' for my
workbench.
set of diagrams to cover the lot. Said diagrams cover
the 9826, 9836A
(mono) and 9836C (colour) machines and monitors, and all the CPU boards
I've seen, including the 68010 + MMU board in mu 9836CU.
Note there are 2 'page 3s' for the 9836 motherbord. They are electrically
the same (same point are ocnencted) but he signals are different
because hte graphics boards are different. You want ot look at the one
that says 'HP9836C' (not 'HP9836A'). In general, anything that says
'HP9826/HP9836' applies to all amchinees, or at least could do (like CPU
boards, disk cotnroller, PSU, etc). 'HP9836' means eitehr all HP9836s
(mono or colour) or just monochrome ones, it should be obvious. 'HP9836C'
is colour machines only.
-tony