4 Feb
2007
4 Feb
'07
9:21 a.m.
Sorry somehow the opening paragraph to this got lost at sea :-(
Well you get the idea, of where I was going even with the rough intro......
Sorry
Bob
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:11:19 -0500, Bob Bradlee wrote:
The 701(1952) -> 702 (1953) -> 705-1 (1954) ->
705-II(1957) and ending with the transistorized 1401
(1959)
and 701 (1952) -> SAGE, NORC, 704(1954) -> 709(1957) and ending with the
transistorized 7090
(1959)
and 701 (1952) -> 650(1953) and ending with the transistorized 7070(1958)
with the 305-RAMAC(1956) appearing by magic during the time between the 650(1953) and
second
generation 705 (1957). I think the computer in question was a tube computer produced in
the gap
between the first 705(1954) and the later release in 1957 a period in time where Core
memory
development was in full swing.
We were deep in the cold war at the time and a lot of
mis-direction was being employed, I have always
thought there was a tube based system that evolved between the 650 and the transistorized
7070.
It would not shock me in the least if this missing TUBE
system was not refered to as a 7070 by its
users, as one of those little cold war mis-directions Cuz-Ike's boys were so fond of,
long before the
"Real" 7070 was released in its transistorized form.
The 305 RAMAC in 1956 and along with the 705 and 709 in
1957 the 305 is considered to be the last
tube computers produced.
So when On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 21:09:10 -0600, Jim Isbell,
W5JAI wrote:
>You see the 7070 that I worked on was purchased by
the US government for a
>very Top Secret installation so it may have been in use before the public
>had access to it. Which, by the way, may also be why it was NOT solid
>state, it was an early model ??
And questions started to roll around in my head so I
looked back....
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:41:07 -0600, Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
>No, it was a 7070, "IBM seven oh
seventy", and it used hundreds if not
>thousands of 12au7s or 12ax7s don't remember which it was. And it was
>definitely NOT solid state. The first solid state addition to it was a
>memory matrix unit that used germanium or silicon junctions in a plane of
>12x12 giving 144 bits of permanent memory sitting behind a plastic window so
>we could look at it and marvel at the wonders of science ( I dont think it
>was really permanent memory as I seem to remember it required a voltage
>input to keep it from fading) . It was a frame about 12 inches square and
>looked like a course window screen with small dots of junction at every
>intersection of the wires.
Until we can better identify this mystery system I will
call it an 707x and assume it is the
missing IBM model 707 from sometime between the 705(1954) and the 709(1957) most likely
about the
time of the 305(1956).
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:41:07 -0600, Jim Isbell, W5JAI
wrote:
>This was in 1959 and 1960
My first question is:
Was 1959/1960 when it was installed or when you worked on it ?
My second question is: Were the tubes in 10 pin
"Fingers" like the 650 or in 8 tube plugins like the 705
And my last questions relate to who, what and where,
these questions can be answered of list, if you
do not wish to shout it out here in an open forum :-) I understand that much if not most
of what we
could not talk about in the 60's is public knowledge but that does not keep one from
thinking twice even
today.
Got to run ...
Bob Bradlee