On 18 Nov 2009 at 0:58, Philip Pemberton wrote:
  ID11 and Delta400 are not forgiving. Not in the least.
At least HP5 is
 a bit more idiot-proof. 
Sorry Phil, I grew up on Kodak photo chemicals.   Mostly D-76 for
film and Dektol for paper.  But it's been several decades since I
last had brown hands...
--Chuck