5 Jul
2012
5 Jul
'12
10:02 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Toby Thain
Sent: July-05-12 7:07 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Jobs - what's he done for us lately? - Re: Today, in the bus to
work...
On 04/07/12 9:31 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Visionary
in product design, management, and marketing?.. you must
> have never heard of NEXT computer.
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Toby Thain wrote:
I own a couple. Were you actually around in the
'80s?
I hung out in the wrong circles!
I played with a pre-release Lisa (being used to develp Berkeley
SmallTalk); I never touched on after that.
I played with a pre-release NeXT; I never touched one after that.
I never touched an Apple///, although I gave my nephew a ][+ with a
/// monitor on it.
Based on those two machines, it was obvious that Jobs wanted closed
systems. Yes, he did. He was consistent about it.
According to Mr. Wozniak in iWoz, he had to fight Jobs off from only having
2 (if I recall right) expansion slots in the Apple ][. One for the disk
drive, and another for another common card (printer I would guess).
That book pretty fixed me on Jobs. I knew he was a tyrant, but ripping off
your best (and probably only) friend over the breakout arcade game
modification "bounty" from Atari with an artificial deadline (so Jobs could
go on a trip the next week, probably with the cash from Atari).
The whole Apple ][ vs Mac split in Apple was cute too. Especially
considering Apple ][ was paying for everything.