Do you have documentation for the scope? The HP stuff is usually good about "first
time user" guidance. Agilent (the test equipment spin-off from HP) has it online:
Google hp1703a manual for the link (it's a weird dynamic link or I'd just include
it here).
I have two scopes of this line, I can't recall exactly which ones but I think the 1701
and 1702. It's a very good scope, but there are a lot of knobs on the front. :-)
Fortunately most things require using only a few of them. You'll want to look at
volts/div, which is the input sensitivity and controls the vertical aspect of the display;
input coupling (AC/DC/GND), which either allows or removes the DC component of the input
signal (or grounds out the input to the channel); time/div, which is the sweep speed and
controls the horizontal aspect of the display; and triggering, which controls whether the
sweep actually... sweeps! Set it to 'auto' for most purposes, but if you read
nothing else from the manual, read about triggering. It gives you a lot of control over
what you see on the screen.
What I would recommend is using the scope to look at all the voltages from the power
supply. Probably the easiest way to do this is to set the input coupling to AC and (with
a 10:1 probe, which is what most scopes come with) set the input sensitivity to 0.1v/div,
and set the time/div to maybe 10mS or so. This means that each vertical division on the
screen represents one volt. If you see one or more volts of waveform with this setup, you
have a problem. A ripple of 1v on a 15v line isn't great but isn't a
deal-breaker; on a 5v line, it represents a 20% variance over time, which is bad.
(Actually, you really don't want more than a token ripple on the 5v rail - even a
half-volt is 10% and can really confuse the logic.) Ideally, you would see a flat line;
if you switch the input coupling to DC, the trace should displace 1v/div (e.g. the 5v rail
would displace five divisions from a no-input trace). To reiterate: with AC coupling, if
you're looking at a pure DC input there will be a flat line at zero volts.
I know it doesn't need to be said, but I'll say it anyway: be sure you've
hooked the ground lead from the probe to a good voltage ground! On the stuff you're
working with here, the chassis of the power supply is a ground reference.
Cheers -- Ian
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From: cctalk-bounces at
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: new here
has the tools just no idea how to use
my scope is a hp 1703A been able to get a line to display but never
been
able to get it to give me a reading youtube videos have allways left me
scratching me head
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> I took the plunge today of plugging it in and turning the power on
no
smoke
fans work
You clearly like living dangerously...
Upper keypad did not light up buti might be
missing something other
HAve you done any electrical tests at all? At the very least you need
to
check the power supply voltages, without power
the machine is not
going
to do a lot. They, I guess, you have the fun job
or debugging the
logic
than I still need to get the ars33 working
it's living but I think
needs the normal cleaning and oiling
They normalyl need that. The manuals are not hard to get off various
web
sites, I would recoemnd reading them before you
start (I did my
firstASR33 with no docuamtation at all, I did all the adjustments by
thinking what they should do, and it worked second time... But then I
had
a mis-spent childhood dismantlign and repairing
all sorts of things).
You want to get the parts book too. It has exploded diagrams of the
complete machine, very useful when you want to know where 'that
washer'
should go...
It's been some years since I worked on an ASR33, but it'll all come
back
> to me very quickly...
>
> -tony
>