19 Mar
2013
19 Mar
'13
3:50 p.m.
On 3/19/2013 2:40 PM, Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote:
On 19/03/13 20:54, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I think the 1000 year claim is based on their technology + spoofing or
meeting and exceeding someones test criteria as to how fast something
should "age". Rather than test for 1000 years and report back, most
tests in the Mil spec area (not for 1000 year media as here, but age
related) make up and publish tests and results that materials that are
being certified must meet. Such as how long diodes, caps, etc. are good
for even if not put into a circuit board. Not only must they work, but
a lot of components that people marvel that the military scrapped timed
out in their inventory numbers.
I suspect upon reading the patents and finding what spec "(Section 2.2,
p.6-8)" is extracted from (This is from the useless marketing document
which mentions China Lake) will actually help understand what they did
to get to their 1000 year number.
Also it is a pain that you have to use a modified drive. I guess they
do something extra (maybe explained in the patents) with the recording.
One buzzword I suspect will be at the center besides the data error
tests they did, is the term "oxidation" I'm guessing a real understand
of that will tell what their real claim to fame is.
Patent search.
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Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html> (August
2012 <http://www.directorytrademark.com/date/20120814_1.html>)
*US 77822823 - M-WRITER
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77822823.html>* Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html> (February
2011 <http://www.directorytrademark.com/date/20110215_1.html>)
*US 77822836 - M WRITER
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77822836.html>* Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html> (February
2011 <http://www.directorytrademark.com/date/20110215_1.html>)
*US 77837406 - +M <http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77837406.html>*
Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html>
*US 77776226 <http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77776226.html>*
Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html>
*US 77725675 - EON <http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77725675.html>*
Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html>
*US 77725677 - M ARC
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77725677.html>* Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html>
*US 77725678 - M ARC
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77725678.html>* Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html>
*US 77721407 - EON DISC
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77721407.html>* Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html>
*US 77628280 - LIFETIME DISC
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/US/77628280.html>* Millenniata Inc
<http://www.directorytrademark.com/owner/Millenniata_Inc_1.html>
The M-Disc claims 1,000 year permanency.
http://www.mdisc.com/
Anyone have experience with these?
--Chuck
(wondering if we'll be able to find a 1,000 year old DVD player)
I don't own any. Just by looking at it, it quickly seems like a scam.
They mention no actual technology used and they seem to go for the Apple
style marketing (pretty pictures and different buzzwords recycled all
over). Wikipedia has a brief article on it at [1] but again, no specifics.
While it might last longer than a DVD, the way it's marketed and lack of
actual technical articles makes me very sceptical to the legitimacy of
their claims. Anyone can make a claim that their product will last 1000
years (which also happens to be forever!) without providing a technical
proof. As long as it lasts for the few years the company is around for,
no one can make a counter-claim.
If it's as versatile as a DVD (not very) while fulfilling the claims its
making, it would probably be a lot more popular to begin with, not to
mention that we probably won't be messing around with DVDs in a few
years anyway.
Except for classiccmp of 2030 where everyone will be looking for that
rare DVD they need ;)
[1] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenniata