Here's a video of it with sound on.
https://i.imgur.com/X1qVYGP.mp4
You have video even in the horisontal retrace. I still think you have a
problem somewhere around the video flip flop. Check that part of the
circuit.
/Mattis
C
On 4/18/2020 4:45 AM, Mattis Lind wrote:
> Hello Chris!
>
> Sorry that your trusty VT52 failed. But it shouldn't be too hard to
> repair it!
>
> I have successfully restored a VT52 (actually a VT50 with a brain
> transplant):
http://www.datormuseum.se/home/dec-vt5x. My experience is
> that the capacitors were in good shape. Especially the bigger filter
> capacitor. I think that DEC used great quality capacitors.
>
> It is always a good idea to check the voltages so that they are within
> the spec. But it should not be necessary to replace all the capacitors in
> my opinion.
>
> The VT52 is a quite interesting design with a very simplistic CPU built
> from TTL components and a microprogram that has 1024 by 8 bits. Most of the
> operations inside it is controlled from this program. In mine the sockets
> for the mikroprogram were bad which meant that it failed to do anything.
> Then I had a couple of gates that were bad.
>
> Den tors 16 apr. 2020 kl 23:07 skrev Chris Zach via cctalk <
> cctalk at
classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org>>:
>
> Wonderful: A few weeks ago I forgot to turn off my VT52 and left it
> running for a day or two. Now the screen is filled with snow and it
> looks like the text is all over the place horozontally.
>
>
> It would be great to have a picture since it could give some hints on
> what is wrong with it. My understanding is that the scan is working both
> horizontally and vertically. Otherwise you would only have a straight line.
> Unlike many common CRTs this CRT circuitry has no oscillator in it that
> creates a picture without input. And since the horisontal
> deflection circuit also creates the high voltage there would be no picture
> at all unless the horisontal signal is there.
>
> This means that the two control boards in the bottom creates some kind of
> horisontal and vertical signals. These signals comes from a simple divider
> chain. There could be some kind of problem in the divider chain. But then
> it would be more likely to not work at all if one of the counters are bad.
> But it is a good idea to check the H and V signal som they are inline with
> the spec. Around 15kHz and 60 or 50 Hz respectively.
>
> Since I haven't seen how the output looks like I speculating a bit. It
> could be the case that the divider chain is correct but the video signal is
> not generated in sync with the divider chain. Then the characters would end
> up all over the place on screen.
>
> There is a flip-flip, made out of a 7400 (E16) and 74H10 (E14) that is
> the video flip-flop. It controls when the screen is rendered. It might be
> the case it could cause your problem. I think it is a good idea to check
> the signals around this flip-flop.
>
> I am always a bit skeptical towards 74Hxx. My impression is that they
> fail more often than standard 74xx.
>
> When I repaired my VT52 I made a quick circuit that created a composite
> video signal from the control board. The signal was fed into a standard CRT
> monitor which I had around. I could then run the control boards flat on
> the bench to take measurements rather than assembling prior to each test. I
> thought that it was quite handy.
>
>
> Any tips or thoughts on where to start looking to fix? The keyboard
> seems to be working as does the RS232 input (the snow on the screen
> changes when the pdp11 talks to it)
>
>
> This indicate that since you are using RS232 you have at least some kind
> of voltage level on +12 V and -12 V since otherwise there would be no
> communication. And +5V is probably not that bad either. Since not much
> would operate in that case. Likewise the -5V is probably ok since the char
> rom would not work very well without the bias.
>
> Good luck with your repair!
>
> /Mattis
>
>
> Thanks!
> Chris
>
>