That should be easy enough to troubleshoot. Use a logic probe or your
logic analyzer to monitor the A13 line while you remove the CPU and memory
cards one at a time. You should quickly find which is causing the problem.
If you pull all the cards and the bit is still stuck then it's time to
troubleshoot the front panel. You can do the same for the stuck A7 bit.
Then check before and after the address buffers on the defective cards.
You'll probably find a defective buffer or a memory IC with a stuck bit. If
the ICs are socketed it should be quick to troubleshoot. One thing to be
aware of is if you have a non-inverting buffer on the line and the buffer's
input is floating due to a poor connection then it will force the buffer's
output high so check the buffers carefully. Some of the old ICs can be a
real bitch to troubleshoot. I've seen some that had hairline cracks right
where the lead enters the IC body. The lead would be driven high or low but
the input to the IC was actually floating and that forced the output high
or low. This is one of the big problems that I found with socketed ICs. The
socket and IC lead are made of different materials and cause electrolysis.
They would look ok but the IC leads frequently fell off the IC bodies if I
tried to remove them from the socket. I seldom find this in military or
high grade commercail equipment since they use high grade parts and pay
attention to details like this (dissimilair material) but it's common in
cheap commercail or hobby grade equipment. I worked on a RCA VIP a couple
of years ago that was full of ICs like this. I've also seen the same
promblem in several Heathkit 6800 trainers. Storage is humid conditions
definitely aggravates the problem.
Joe
At 06:26 PM 6/4/05 -0400, you wrote:
All:
After verifying the power supply, I'm now starting to play with the
system. I put in the CPU board (TDL Z80) and three 16k memory boards.
Reading and writing data to memory seems to work, but frequently I'll get
the A13 and A7 LEDs stuck ON. If I toggle RESET, the LEDs clear but on my
first EXAMINE, A13 and A7 go on.
Things I have not done yet:
* loaded any programs or tried to verify memory fully
* cleaned any board contacts
If I pull one of the memory boards, the A7 problem goes away but A13
stays on all the time, leading me to believe that that issue is either on
the CPU card or the front panel card.
How does one troubleshoot a stuck-bit problem in these systems? I do
have a 12-bit logic analyzer on a laptop (uses the parallel port) but I
haven't pulled that out yet.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site:
http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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