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From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: ebay question
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, jim wrote:
paypal really goes after buyers with a vengence.
They don't seem to give
a crap what sellers do. I bid on a camera and won the auction, but the
seller gave me the finger and said "oops, too little money, i messed up
not screwing you with a reserve" and ebay did absolutely nothing, and he
continued vic^h^h selling to others, and does to this day.
I've about had it with eBay. It seems like getting screwed by a seller is
no longer such a rare thing. What's more common is the complete lack of
regard that eBay gives to buyer's who complain about shitty sellers. No
matter how many complains I send, eBay seems to ignore them even more
stridently. Of course, when a seller I complained about complained about
me, I got an immediate warning. When I wrote back (after spending an
inordinate amount of time trying to navigate eBay's maze of
self-referencing web pages that all lead to nowhere to try to figure out
how to contact them) I have yet to hear back about it. eBay needs to get
bitch slapped hard by a class-action lawsuit.
And no, this is not (just) a blatant plug for the Vintage Computer
Marketplace, though I do wish more people would start switching their
vintage computer buying and selling there.
New features are going to be implemened soon including multiple currency
support. We're shooting for doubling the current user base by the end of
the year, but we need more users. That being said, we'll also be
introducing some incentive programs for people to refer others to the
site. Stay tuned...
http://marketplace.vintage.org
Your own bank only reports your interest income,
nothing else to the
IRS, on ordinary banking operations. I cant think of anything that
paypal is doing that is reportable compared to a bank, or to a credit
card processing operation (again, no IRS reports) that is unique or
regulated.
PayPal operates as a bank, and is therefore subject to the same
regulations as any "bricks & mortar" bank.
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Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Last time I checked there were onyl 112 listing at the marketplace, and a
few of the prices seemed kind of high to me. The whole point of EBAY is that
there are 100,000+ auctions going on and good deals are still there to be
found. Of course EBAY will do anything to please the seller because thats
what keeps their money coming in. If people quit selling items there what
would the multi billion dollar EBAY stock be worth? If a seller on EBAY
screws up the dsecription then get your money back (assuming you iused a
credit card). I wouldnt even bother with EBAY's or sellers runaround call
your credit card company and just reverse the charges (have a good story).
I dont see how a small closed group of collectors can reach critical mass to
rival EBAY for sellers attention.