Only thing though... Xerox actually got something for the access they gave the Apple
engineers... namely 100000 options of common Apple stock. It's not as though Apple
stole the concept outright. And in other cases, former Xerox engineers ended up
proliferating the GUI concept when they left to work at other companies aside from Apple.
And of course the GUI concept wasn't first done on the Xerox Star... previous to
Xerox's implementation the NLS had a lot of the same design paradigms.
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Subject: RE: Wired Article, On Jan 19, 1983 Apple unveils Lisa
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Rich Alderson <RichA at vulcan.com>
wrote:
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From:Christian Liendo
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> Subject: Wired Article, On Jan 19, 1983 Apple unveils Lisa
From: Ian King
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:19 PM
Does this guy not know how to spell
"Alto"?
He is, after all, writing for *_WiReD_*.
Tesler's comment regarding Smalltalk vs. the Star hardware argues in
favor of
an Alto influence, but the team probably saw both
the Star and the
Alto at
PARC.
I've always heard the story told the way the article reads... that
apple stole from xerox and microsoft stole from apple, who sued
microsoft, etc. I'm always left wondering why xerox didn't stomp on
both of them.
Maybe Xerox's lawyers were smarter and recognized that a 'look and feel'
lawsuit was stupid. (The fact that later decisions legitimized the 'look and
feel' theory to some extent does not change my opinion that it is stupid precedent.)
After all, think about the Intel vs. NEC suit over the V20. NEC created a chip that
"looked like a duck, quacked like a duck, etc." NEC was found faultless because
they did not copy Intel microcode or masks: they built their own "duck" that
looked and quacked the same way. In even less guileful fashion, both Apple and Microsoft
took ideas arguably available from Xerox's publications and demonstrations and built
their own products upon them.
I have always considered Apple's suit against Microsoft to have been a nuisance suit
pure and simple, but then IANAL.... -- Ian