Guy Sotomayor wrote:
On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:40 AM, schoedel at
kw.igs.net
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:25:42 -0800, Guy Sotomayor
wrote
Q: How many DECTapes (images) can fit on a 1TB
HDD?
All of them?
YES! Finally someone got it! :-)
DEC never shipped millions of DEC Tapes. So the contents of all of the DEC Tapes ever
manufactured would fit on a 1TB HDD (it's not even close so all of the issues that
were brought up about file system, block size, etc are pretty much irrelevant).
I have gone through 2 boxes of TU-58 tapes with about 200 tapes in each
box plus other odd assorted tapes for a total of about 500 tapes in all.
I know of a number of other sites which have used several thousand tapes.
At one time, the PDP-11/44 and the VAX 780 used the TU58 media
as distribution tapes. How many installations existed?
If you are referring, in particular, to the TU-58 tape media, then it seems
a bit unlikely that if I can personally be aware of between 3000 and 5000
TU-58 tape media, that my experience will not have been duplicated a few
hundred times for a total of over a million TU-58 tapes. If you have exact
shipping information on how many TU-58 tapes DEC ever sold and
shipped, then I will agree to that limited number.
Otherwise, for a quick estimate, I can probably stack 30 to 50 TU-58
tapes (in their plastic containers for better stability) on a 1 TB HDD.
With a capacity of 512 blocks (of 512 bytes per block - or a normal HDD
block size) for each TU-58 tape and approximately 1,000,000,000,000
divided by 512 bytes (or about 1,953,125,000 blocks) on a 1 TB HDD,
my estimate would be close to 3,814,697 TU-58 tape images could fit
on a raw 1 TB HDD when no additional information such as a file structure
is used. RT-11 would be ideal in that case if used to access the
information.
If 465 files, each with exactly 2,147,483,648 bytes each holding 8192
TU-58 tape images each were allocated on a 1 TB HDD with additional
room for a FAT32 file structure, that would hold 3,809,280 TU-58 tape
images. RT-11 under Ersatz-11 could easily access each of the TU-58
tape images in that case without a separate file structure being
required for
each of the 2 GB files. This would be an actual solution that will work,
aside from the practical problem if some sort of index system to keep
track of the contents of the 3,809,280 TU-58 images. But then you
did not say that it was necessary to keep the index system for the TU-58
tape images on the same 1 TB HDD.
I believe that is a bit more than the 3,086,419 TU-58 tape images
previously estimated.
Jerome Fine