28 Dec
2020
28 Dec
'20
6:24 p.m.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 8:11 PM jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 12/28/2020 2:25 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
Googles filters are garbage. Problem not solved. I still get plenty of
spam markings by Google with the headers or something about the traffic.
I get multiple messages that fail the filter rule (same as yours) which
stay in the inbox as well.
The only filtering system that's worked (so far) is the one in
Thunderbird. Also with the flow into Thunderbird, I don't use any spam
filters, and never see any cctalk/tech messages left behind.
Useless data, in early days when there was unlimited email storage I
thought I'd be clever and subscribe on both my gmail account and my
personal alias for cctalk. Didn't work out that way because so much
screwing up by google.
thanks
Jim
I do this for a living so I am speaking professionally here. It's not
about filters it's about server to server authentication. There is a best
practice for "mail serving" authentication, DNS, encryption and the like.
The old days when messages were simply scanned for spam phrases is long
over. The greylisting and all that is old fashioned. If your mail server
does not follow the modern best practices your message will accumulate
enough strikes against it to cause it to be marked as spam. On the
receiving end one can filter messages "out of spam" but that's an after the
fact local software thing.. It does not solve the reason / issue causing
the need to have filters in the first place. This is why fewer and fewer
private mail servers are still running. They can't keep up with all of the
required protocols. It's a bummer but it's the way it is. The
commercialization of the web is a done deal.
Bill
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 23:12, Bill Degnan via
cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have noticed the same email addresses' messages routinely end up in
the
spam
folder of gmail.
I have 2 nested folders (labels/tags/whatever) in Gmail:
classiccmp/talk and classiccmp/tech. In my rule which filters messages
into those folders, I ticked the box that says never to send messages
matching the filter to spam.
Problem solved.