11 Jan
2015
11 Jan
'15
9:15 a.m.
Seems to me as several have viewed and walked away the price should be coming down not
going up. I also bet the important things such as the MAPS and Hardware manuals are
missing, He might have tape drives but does he have any tapes? So whilst I haven't
seen it I can't comment on how salvageable this 4341 is, but even if it had been
carefully removed, re-installing after 10 years in good storage would be a challenge.
I had a 4361 installed in a lecture theatre in a local University. It was shipped by IBM
from its previous location so it was well packed etc. It was a nightmare getting enough
power to run the thing. We needed around 60amps 240v three phase. I just wish I had kept
the Physical Planning Manuals.
Given the condition reports I have seen I imagine it will go for scrap, I don't think
there is much gold in a 4341 but there is a lot of steel...
.. Reminds me of the case of the Blackpool Vulcan bomber sold on e-bay for ?15,000.
Estimated cost of move ?20K + ?1k per week storage costs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/4181657.stm
it was eventually sold for scrap for ?4000. I don't know if the vendor was ever paid
his money. I think probably not...
.. the buyer now apparently has a Harrier Jump Jet instead....
Dave Wade
G4UGM
(When this happened ?1 was about $1.10)
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Sean
Caron
Sent: 11 January 2015 16:35
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Bay Area: IBM 4341 and HP3000
Sheesh! Not so collegial! My take has always been, if you find a hidden gem,
great, but if it gets blown up and the item's got buyers swarming and the
price is shooting up, c'est la vie... Nobody owes us cheap additions to all our
personal collections (though of course it's nice when it happens anyway). I do
miss the "old days" when so much of this stuff was just generally available
for
the taking, nobody would have ever thought to fight over it!
Best,
Sean
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:15 AM, js at cimmeri.com <js at cimmeri.com>
wrote:
On 1/11/2015 4:50 AM, jim s wrote:
squat.
>
> The more who call, the more the sellers hopes are raised.
>
> Why people who have no actual capability of purchasing these items are
> calling the seller up and taking up their time, is beyond me. All you
> do is raise the difficulty of negotiations for the actual guy who
> might end up buying the items.
>
> Any actual buyer is fully capable of getting all the answers they need
> without your interference.
>
> For the similar reasons, as a frequent buyer, it also highly annoys me
> when systems on eBay or Craiglist are found and rebroadcasted here.
> Now, my chance find has been made aware to a much wider audience, the
> competition shoots way up, and I have to pay more.
>
> Of course, there's sellers here too who benefit from the rebroadcasting.
> But I say, let them broadcast themselves.
>
> - J.
>
I talked to him at length and got a little more on the story. ...
... [snip]
I'm willing to say that my impression of the guy is that he had very
high expectations of what he had stored...
No wonder. As a buyer, the worst thing you can do with any seller is
have a
bunch of people calling up, expressing interest, and informing
the seller that he has special items and that there are special groups of
people out there who are interested. Now the seller's beliefs in a high
value are confirmed.
It's far better for a potential buyer that the seller thinks he has
junk only a scrap dealer is interested in. Scrap dealers don't pay diddly