3 Feb
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3 Feb
'22
5:58 p.m.
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Today's Topics:
1. (John Ames)
2. Re: (Paul Koning)
3. Re: (Jon Elson)
4. Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up (Dave Mitton)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 10:20:25 -0800
From: John Ames <commodorejohn at gmail.com>
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Nice. It would be a good term to apply to
VMS SYSGEN parameters that are documented as having units "microfortnights".
A footnote in the system config guide noted that ufortnights
would be approximated at one second.
Jon
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:31:27 -0500
From: Dave Mitton <dave at mitton.com>
To: "cctech at classiccmp.org" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 18:46:46 -0500
From: Bob Smith <bobsmithofd at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up
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Back in the bad old days of the 5160 PC, some DTC
controllers allowed for partitioning a drive (using witch settings)
I think
"witch settings" is my new preferred term for this. They're
certainly mysterious and arcane enough.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 13:30:33 -0500
From: Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net>
To: John Ames <commodorejohn at gmail.com>, "cctalk at classiccmp.org"
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On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:20 PM, John Ames via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Nice. It would be a good term to apply to VMS SYSGEN parameters that are documented as
having units "microfortnights".
paul
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 16:49:42 -0600
From: Jon Elson <elson at pico-systems.com>
To: Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
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On 2/2/22 12:30, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Back in the bad old days of the 5160 PC, some DTC
controllers allowed for partitioning a drive (using witch settings)
I think
"witch settings" is my new preferred term for this. They're
certainly mysterious and arcane enough. I?ve been watching this thread go by, and never
finding time to contribute?.
I started in Aug 1977 and finished the CommIOP products from Bob and Harvey. Clarise was
no longer involved.
It was basically done, I just did the QA on them and released it. I did find some bugs
in the debugger we provided.
I basically did KMC software support, on and off, going forward. When the KMC-B came out
(I think Remi did that)
I rev?ed the tools. I also did a KMC Tools package for VMS. I tossed into that
package a VMS line printer driver, I wrote as an example and POC, that ran multiples LP11s
at significantly better speed. We ran that in our lab. The MIT LCS lab loved that.
My memory is weak on things like the ?DMX? and other things that CSS did. The Lab
Products group built some successful data collection products around the KMC.
Attempts in the Comms HW group to do an updated UNIBUS DH never got off the ground. We
(NAC) did pitch the idea of using the CommIOP-DZ to VMS, as a way to off-load character
terminal loads, and they would have nothing to do with it. For whatever reasons, they did
not like the idea of smart devices.
That led to the attempt to build a ?universal? terminal concentrator based on an 11
networked into the system. That project was complicated by what it tried to integrate,
and took too long to build. It was overtaken by the simpler LAT based products that DEC
went forward with.
George Conant, Bob Rosenbaum, and Pete Nesbeda left the company and founded Xyplex that
fielded successful products in this space.
I could go on, but ? I do have copies of the KMC Tools doc and maybe the CommIOPs, but
no KMC hw docs.
Dave.
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Hey Dave! I did not mention you because I was not sure you wanted to
recall those days! you are correct it was Remi Lisee doing the design,
I did the first line units, and then they were redone a few years
later. Glad you piped in!! Hope you are doing great! All of you guys
were brilliant, except Harvey, he was a royal pain, said with lots of
laughs we both got tired or burning roms!!
bob smith