Previously on this channel......
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, David
Griffith wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Golan Klinger wrote:
> David Griffith wrote:
>
> > I have a fondness for the Wyse 85 and I was wondering if anyone
here has
> > one in decent condition to get rid of.
>
> I share your fondness for that particular terminal. I'm not sure
what
> it is about the Wyse 85 but I just love them. My
last one died a few
> years ago and my Wyse 60 just isn't up to snuff. Considering how
many
were
made/sold, it's odd that they're so hard to find.
I find the Wyse 50 on Ebay all the time, frequently newly refurbished.
Do you still have the dead 85? Since the 50 is externally identical
to
the 85, do you think it would be possible to turn a 50
into an 85 with
some rom swapping?
Whoops. They're not identical. I've unearthed a Wyse 99gt with bad
screenburn and nasty case discoloration. Seems close enough for my
purposes.
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Yes, Wyse made some terminals that WERE the same, just different PROMS.
The Wyse-75
and Wyse-50 were the SAME hardware. You can convert a Wyse 50 (weird
escape sequences)
to a Wyse-75 (nice VT-100 type escape sequences) with a bit of work.
I've done it
very successfully (it was a few years ago, in a previous life).
Steps:
1) Have a Wyse 75 nearby that can be "borrowed". You will return it in
its original
condition.
2) Have the Wyse 50 (soon to be a Wyse 75) around as well.
3) Get a couple of EPROMS that are the same as the ones inside the Wyse
50/75. At the
moment I don't remember, but a pair of 2764's sounds familiar.
4) Open up the Wy-75's logic board and get access to the nice socketed
prom chips.
5) Mark the chips and their sockets to make sure you don't fudge them
in the wrong
place.
6) Make copies of these chips in your EPROMS. Be aware that if you
don't have high
enough speed chips, the unit you are "modding" might NOT work in 132
column mode.
7) Place these chips in the Wy-50's board where they came from the
WY-75.
8) (Here it gets a bit tricky!) Remove the EEPROM (it is a 16 pin chip
and socketed)
from the Wy-75 and put it in the Wy-50's socket. Save the Wy-50's
EEPROM for a
step further down.
9) Power up the Wy-50 (now a Wy-75) and get into the setup menu. Note
that the keytops
are in a few different places, but since you have a Wy-75, just make
legends for
that copy the keycaps.
10) With power ON (careful now) gently remove the EEPROM chip inserted
in step 8.
11) With the power STILL on insert (careful now) the EEPROM chip from
the original WY-50
back into the socket.
12) Since you are in the setup menu, do a "save". This saves the Wy-75
stuff into the
EEPROM and makes sure that bits are set to allow the Wy-75 to work.
If you DON'T
do this, the terminal WON'T power up in a useful state AT ALL!
13) Put the original Wy-75 parts back into the "donor" wy-75 and
re-assemble it. They
won't notice ANY difference as you haven't changed anything!
14) Re-assemble the former Wy-50 (now a nice functional Wy-75) and add
some labels to
the keyboard for the keys that are different from the Wy-75 (there
are a few).
15) Be happy. You just upgraded your Wy-50 to a Wy-75. Enjoy the nice
VT-100 style
escape codes. Note that some of the "F keys" (F1-F6 as I remember)
have specific
functions and are NOT programmable.
So, there you go. Yes it is the same hardware. The Wyse 75 firmware
looks in the
EEPROM to see that you started out that way, and wedges if not. This is
the reason for
the dance shown above. I tried it without the EEPROM dance and it DID
NOT work. Then
I figured it out. I didn't have an EEPROM (2401??) programmer, so I
couldn't clone that
part, but since the above works (be very very careful), it shouldn't be
a problem.
As the saying goes: "West and Welaxation at Wast ha ha ha ha..."
(insert Elmer Fudd
voice here).
--
Tom Watson Generic Signature
t_wtom at
qualcomm.com (I'm at work now)