teaching programming to kids - Re: Looking for 8080/Z80 BASIC

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote: I completely understand the limitations of Federal job designations, but this is what I was able to pull up, and at least shows that "one in a million" is a vast undercount. I was not trying to suggest it is an all-inclusive/properly-exclusive statistic. I'm certainly willing to stand behind "less than 1%" of the workforce programs computers for a living, but how many slivers of a percent is it really? A few, probably. The definition given where I got the stat does mention that "programmer" _might_ build websites, so it likely covers folks who wear many hats but may or may not include workers who only build web sites. It's unclear. Yes... I've heard that. I try not to react in an antagonistically offensive manner (but I often fail trying). The first time in my life I ever applied for unemployment, the best IT definition for my former job would have been "VMS System Administrator" (called "System Manager" at the time, which happened to make the situation worse since I did not manage subordinate employees). There was nothing even remotely close to that in the Federal Job Register. I was declared a Mainframe Systems Programmer and was required to apply for 1-3 matching jobs per week to maintain my status to receive my weekly checks. I don't think it's a shock that I wasn't actually qualified to be employed as a Mainframe Systems Programmer, so 100% of the leads for State jobs that were funneled my way by the Job and Family Service folks were a bad fit. Eventually, I found gainful employment on my own with no assistance from the public safety net (and the benefits paid for by my previous employer meant I could keep my house and eat). I started my career as a contractor, paid on a 1099, and filing a Schedule C (talk about growing up fast)... I seem to recall the same paperwork dilemma you had, and my accountant picked something similar for that blank as well. -ethan