20 Nov
2003
20 Nov
'03
12:10 p.m.
yes they will work... but it used to have 2883 on it! I suppose I can go
with something else if needed!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion: On-Topic
and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
though
List....
what
and
why does it have to be a 2883? 7900, 7905, 7906, 7920
will all work.
Jay
----- Original Message -----
From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
To: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>rg>; "General Discussion: On-Topic
and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
glass!
yes, we need a disk drive to make it work
also.....
ed!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion: On-Topic
and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
ticket
Ed;
I get the impression that the 2000Access system you have "under glass"
isn't
> running. Shipping parts around might be expensive... buy me a plane > and I'll come out there and get it
running for you. SOO much nicer to
show
a
> running system :)
>
> Jay West
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>
>
> > no one ever touched the inside of that unit except me, but... yes
when
> I
> > > am in the giant glass display case I can check! yep... hp under
a
However,
> > sight to behold!
> >
> > ed!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion:
On-Topic
and
> > > Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:25 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes, you have to pop them out to put them in a prom reader.
> > > that's
> > > > not what I was asking. I was merely asking if you were positive
you
> had
> > > > them, via visual inspection, so we knew there were at least two
sets
in
they
> > > were
> > > > present in your system.
> > > >
> > > > Jay West
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> > > > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> > > > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:20 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > no you have to pop them out to put them in a prom reader!
> > > > >
> > > > > I know they are there... the system would not have worked as an
> access
> > > > > system had they not!
> > > > >
> > > > > we need a set of hardware manuals for the 2100... it seems
> the
> > world rather than my one set :) Someone could have pulled them out
years
> > > ago, that's why I was asking for a visual check to be really sure
> the
> > > > > passing of the years the old ones I had at computer exchange
Inc.
> let
> > > the
> > > > earth...
> > > >
> > > > I DID find though the 2100 hardware training manual #
02100-90159
> > > while
> > > > > looking at home here for the infamous DEC master Module
> When
> > I
> > > > retired I squirreled bits of manuals all over where I live...
Most
> have
> > > > been added to the museum's reference library but it seems every
time
I
> > go
> > > > digging I find something.new I know the 2100 processor manuals
are
> gone
> > > > though as they were in the HP binders.... kind of hard to loose
> those!
> > > >
> > > > ed sharpe archivist for smecc
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 7:09 PM
> > > > Subject: Fw: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > To: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:08 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You don't have to pop out the chips, just pull out the
rom
card,
> > A1
> > > or
> > > > > A2,
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > think it's A2 going from memory. Look at the card
and see > > > numbers
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > on the white and gold chips that are socketed :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Ed Sharpe"
<esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> > > > > > > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
Only"
> > > <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > > Cc: <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:31 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > well I have the set that is in the 2100 in the
2000
access
> >
system
> > > > > here.
> > > > > > > not a loose set. ( shall we call it embedded?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would live in fear of poping them out though......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ed!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Jay West"
<jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > > To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>;
"General Discussion:
> > On-Topic
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:07 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're quite sure you have a set of the IOP
firmware for
the
> > 2100
> > > > cpus
> > > > > > Ed?
> > > > > > > > If so, good to know. I really want to get mine
backed up
as
> > they
> > > > > seem
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > the only ones around. However, I got a new
prom burner > it
> > is
> > > > > > acting
> > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > flaky so I'm a little afraid to put my
chips in it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jay
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "ed sharpe"
<esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> > > > > > > > > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts"
> > > > > > > > > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>;
<classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:16 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > we have a set too Al, but alas no way
to read them....
> > > > > > > > > > It is up to you Jay!
> > > > > > > > > > ed!
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Al Kossow"
<aek(a)spies.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:54
PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system
RTE6/VM?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to dump the
microcode proms this weekend
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Dumps of the firmware is now up
at
> > > > > > > www.bitsavers.org/HP/1000_firmware
> > > > > > > > > > > including the IOP firmware the
21MX.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jay, since you appear to have the
only surviving
copy
of
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