-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Reed
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:10 AM
To: cctalk
Subject: Re: The redundancy of Dave McGuire (was: Truce, compromise
reached? - was: teaching programming to kids - was: Looking for 8080/Z80
BASIC)
On 1/9/12 1:28 PM, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:46 PM, "Peter C.
Wallace" <pcw at mesanet.com> wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Dave McGuire wrote:
Ha! Typical Microsoft fanboy. Anyone who even says something as
innocuous
as "maybe this isn't so nice" is "mouth-foaming", etc. It's
not my
fault
that you have no taste, value of uptime, desire for performance,
appreciation
of efficiency, or knowledge of OS design. *I* don't care what you run.>
now now, rememember your blood pressure...
This is me keeping it down. :)
-Dave
I was glad when I went from a company that the mantra was "we always use
the
right tool for the job, and it is a microsoft tool" to We use the right
tool for the job, help us buy a scalable reliable tape library system....
And then we spent 100K+ on a storageTek library hooked up to a sun E450 and
Clariion RAID array... And they were happy and it cost less and was more
stable than the same raid and tape library hooked up to windows 2K server
box.... The storage tek rep that came out to help fine tune it was
surprised that we didn't have to reboot the server daily like their
customers running windows were.
Please not that crap. Where I work we have circa 250 windows servers. If we
had to re-boot a significant number of them every day I would never get any
time to "play" computers. My trouble with Windows servers and commodity
computing in general is that MANAGERS think it absolves them from any of the
hard stuff (Capacity Management, Security, Change Control, Checking Log
Files etc. etc). My Manager still isn't happy that we have some RAID-10
storage in the SAN because it "wastes space". Yesterday I had a bunch of
developers asking to create a Business Objects database on the same box that
has SharePoint (if you don't know, don't ask, I think of it as Facebook for
Businesses) and which already has i/o service times that are heading towards
the 1 second mark, goodness even the mainframe we had 35 years ago managed
25 i/o a second! Building a solid infrastructure is about proper design and
architecture across the board. Run a UNIX shop in the same sloppy way folks
run Windows shops and you would be up your neck in Poo Poo just as quickly.
I know I have been there. Its been a while but I once spent a less than
happy Sunday afternoon removing core dump files from a Solaris box. A disk
partition was full where some one had rolled out a dodgy version of Mozilla
that crashed on an Intranet page. The temp space had filled with core dump
files and the whole production line had stopped because the apps that ran it
wouldn't start. (yes it was a UK factory owned by a big US Corp. I won't
name on here as they might sue but every one on here would know them) More
recently having to work late because one of our Solaris boxes which has a
hardened console had crashed (I can't remember why, possibly extended power
outage) and fsck wouldn't complete with human input. I couldn't get any
input in through the attached USB keyboard. Turns out the USB was disabled
to prevent tampering! I ended up using Hyperterm on a Windows box above as
the keyboard and watching the display on KVM monitor ... Now that is fun,
needing a windows box to fix a Solaris one.... (No Solaris ones near by to
patch the cable across)
The above don't mean Solaris is bad, just it needs a little loving care and
a bunch of flowers once in a while. Any computing system will crash if it is
care is neglected and it runs out of resources. If a large number of users
increase their resources a little bit its easy to kill any thing. I always
hate the first day back after Christmas. In the UK many folks take the time
between Christmas Eve and New Years day off. Judging by our car park
yesterday it was the first day back for many. The result is that the load on
the mail servers was up as folks read two weeks of back mail.
Love to all, even Cobol programmers
Dave
Doing things virtually for over 30 years...