On Mar 10, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Dave McGuire
<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
>> $ 200 is definitely even close to the
stratosphere.
>> Entertain yourself and get a quote for just the PCB.
>> (4Layer, gold fingers, 14 routing points, non standard thickness,
>> prototype amount 10, smt)
>> And while you're at it, put the qbus drivers on it and a handle.
>>
>> Please tell me what you got so far.
Indeed, SMT will be *cheaper* due to the reduced
number of holes to be
drilled. And much faster to assemble.
Recently, the 2-layer boards I've had made and priced had no surcharge
for hole quantity. I'm willing to concede that's not so for
multi-layer, but certainly SMT is convenient in many ways (more room
to route signals on the bottom for one).
I would personally not be fussy about SMT vs through-hole construction
- either would be fine if it kept the price down.
I've done budgetary pricing for my next set of boards and a quad sized board 4 layers
with gold edge connectors, solder mask and silkscreen (I'm no where near the hole
limit) was running ~$60-90/ea for a run of 25 boards. That also includes doing electrical
tests for the boards.
I've found that a quad board fills up pretty quickly when you start adding the various
regulators (it's sad that you need as many as 3 or 4 different voltages), unibus
transceivers, level shifters, etc, etc (I do everything in LVTTL since those parts are
more obtainable but typically not 5v tolerant). Going 4 layers makes routing *so* much
easier and you get better signal integrity.
I'd like to see someone put together a board for $200 (complete). For unibus, you can
need upwards of 10 transceiver chips and the last time I could find them they were $7/ea.
Just for the bare fab + transceivers you're well towards $150 and haven't done
anything yet. As far as SMT goes, I'm not up to soldering 208pin QFPs or 0603s so add
in assembly costs too. Typically, what I've been doing is that the transceivers are
the only thru-hole parts and *maybe* a connector (some connectors are better thru-hole
because of mechanicals).
In the end, assembled boards that do anything interesting is probably closer to $500 than
$200 depending upon what you want to do on the board (ie what you do once you get past all
the interface gunk). When I do boards, I don't do junk drawer stuff. It's all
new (not scavenged) parts. You'd be surprised how fast all the little stuff adds up.
TTFN - Guy