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classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Sridhar Ayengar
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Booting a VAXstation
Dave McGuire wrote:
>>> I have a VAXstation 3100 model 38 I
bought on eBay for the
princely
>>> sum of ?0.99. Sadly it came without
disks and I have no wide-SCSI
>>> disks of <1GB.
>>
>> That machine doesn't have wide SCSI. It's 8-bit ("narrow")
10MHz.
>
> I don't wish to question authority, as it were, but the internal
> cables are 104 pin (If I'm counting them correctly) and the external
> SCSI port on the back is 72-pin mini-D. That *looks* like wide SCSI
to
> me! If it's not, then what kind of
cabling is it? The ordinary
> narrow-SCSI stuff I knew from back in the '80s and '90s was 50-way
> ribbon cables with 50-pin IDC connectors internally and either 50-
pin
Centronics or D25 connectors externally.
It's 8-bit 10MHz. :) Those machines were designed before the
"standard"
SCSI connectors were standardized.
These are the machines with that weird HONDA68F connector on the
backplate, right? But the internal ribbon cables should be
[weird_ribbon_connector]->50-pin IDC, right?
Peace... Sridhar
That's what mine are. As Sridhar and others have said, that rear connector takes a
unique DEC cable. Fortunately, because 3100s were very common, so is the cable. ISTR the
only configuration is [weird 68-pin] <--> [Centronics-style 50-pin].
Internally, they are a standard 50-pin IDC to the back of a drive. One problem you may
have, though, is that you may be missing the 'sled' that holds the drive in place.
This isn't a showstopper, but it does mean you have to ensure that the drive (just
sitting in the case) can't short out itself or anything else. I have a machine like
that, and I just don't move it. :-)
ISTR installing VAX/VMS 7.2 on a 209MB drive. I wasn't trying to do DECwindows,
though. -- Ian