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ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk
8 Jun 2006 8 Jun '06
1:23 a.m.
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> If some others would chip in on the shipping, I'd gladly send you a > scanner. Would you prefer SCSI or "Centronics"?
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Tony Duell wrote:
I don't care, provided it comes with schematics and uses chips that I recognise :-)
I kinda doubt that even the old HP scanners had schematics available.
AFAIK you're right, they didn't. I don't think there were any scanner service manuals on hpmusuem.net before the crash, but manuals for similar-date products didn't contain schematics.
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However, the operation of a scanner is not too complex to reverse engineer.
Rather you than me. The only scanner I looked inside had several unindentifyable ICs...
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I guess that we still can't get you to accept one, even for free, without open hardware source.
Surely you all know me by now. I am not going to depend on something that I can't repair.
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Does it _depend_ on the mains frequency? Votlage conversion is trivial (I have a 110V step-down transformer in the workshop anyway), frequency conversion can be more of an 'interesting' job.
I'd be tempted to do it "mechanically", with a motor and generator.
So would I. Doing it electroncially (rectify mains to give DC, then re-chop at the right frequency) looks great on paper, but as we all know, using power semiconductors that way is a black art. One tiny mistake and they'll try to put a dead short across the mains and scatter themselves round the room in the process...
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8" drives may need 50 v 60 Hz (or a change of pulley and belt).
Making a new pulley is not a particularly difficult job....
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But almost everything else recently is rectified to DC. Most "modern" computers just want 5VDC, 12VDC, etc.
Indeed. Occasionally, the mains frequecy was used for a real time clock (in which case the thing won't keep good time, which may not be a big problem -- if it is, a crysal + divider chain would be a workaround). Very occasionally, the transformer is rated only for 60Hz (higher frequency means you can use a smaller core for the same power, that's (a) why a lot of aircraft stuff ran at 400Hx, and (b) why the transformers in SMPSUs are small). But most trasnformers that are used on 60Hz are OK for 50Hz too. -tony
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