11 Jan
2012
11 Jan
'12
12:55 a.m.
On 01/10/2012 06:19 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
On Jan 10, 2012 6:55 AM, "Mouse"<mouse at
rodents-montreal.org> wrote:
If you are unable to distinguish between not reflexively bashing
Windows based on out-of-date perceptions of it and being a Windows
fanboy...well, then, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but in
that case you deserve at least some of the epithets thrown your way.
Not that I like Windows. I don't. It's a horrible, horrible OS in
multiple respects for almost every purpose I care about.
What he said!
I dislike Windows myself these days& try to avoid it. I can use it,
support it& work with it if I have to, but I won't if I don't have too our
are not being paid to.
Even so, for all its faults, modern versions are highly reliable. Anyone
flaming about how unreliable it is immediately *shows themselves to be an
irrational non,MS fanboy* because such opinions are not based upon current
facts; they are bigotry, based only on prejudice& badly out-of-date
hearsay.
Yes but you poo-poo any statement that is anti-Windows or
anti-Microsoft, regardless of the facts.
Then
perhaps Dave you should keep out of the conversation - your
above comment shows you are still stuck in the 90's and have no
comprehension of current technology whatsoever. As a manager of
various Solaris, Linux and Windows servers for one of Australia's
largest banks, I find very, very little difference in the
reliability, performance and uptime of any of them.
I'm "stuck in the
90s" because I'm not a Windows fanboy?? If I am paying someone for technical advice and
skills, I expect a current
skill set of all major platforms. For some things, the right tool may be
one that somebody does not personally like. They should be able to suggest
this without their emotion and preferences getting in the way.
If they can't, then they are unfit for the job.
That means current knowledge and no bigotry and hatred.
You're wrong on two counts. My experience is varied, but the areas
in which I'm paid for my advice and skills are high-performance
scientific computing, supercomputers, large-scale and high-reliability
servers, and (the opposite end of the spectrum) embedded systems
development. I am Just Not Into suitly desktop computing with
spreadsheets and word processors. I use both on occasion, yes, but
that's not my area of work. I don't work in the not-very-demanding,
not-very-technical world of office desktop computing or home desktop
computing.
The other is the more important (to me) point that has me
particularly hot under the collar. You, like most Microsoft people
(regardless of how loudly you state that you don't like or use Windows,
you still tout it at every turn) automatically label ANY anti-Windows
statement as somehow not being based on facts or experience, and
automatically entirely emotionally-based. That is insane, insulting,
and more importantly, just plain wrong.
I use the best tool for the job, regardless of the job. The day that
Windows becomes a good tool for a job that I need to have done, I will
use Windows. That day hasn't come yet. If you feel otherwise, I'm
sorry, I disagree. Either way, though, I will not permit you to simply
dismiss every word out my keyboard as automatically subject to some sort
of emotional bias just because you don't like it and don't want it to be
true.
Personally I don't give a rat's ass what you think, as you've proven
time and time again that you really don't know what you're talking about
when it comes to certain major categories of stuff. I offer your
repeated assertions that "95% of all computers run Windows" and
"computer programmers number one in a million" up as examples. This is
why I don't even listen to your arguments that actually seem plausible
anymore, because I have no idea if you've actually looked at the facts.
Further, you're a guy who loudly proclaims that you're not a
programmer, yet you'll try to ram your opinions regarding programming
languages down anyone's throat who happens to pass by! What kind of
crap is that?
So drop it, forget it, stop with your Microsoft touting, and get the
hell out of my face. For once again, you've ruined my day, because I
made the mistake of trying really hard yet again to develop some
professional respect for you. I didn't even start this particular
fight, Richard did, and you decided to just join in! Go find a hobby.
Some of us have work to do, and some of us are actually interested in
classic computing.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA