14 Jul
2000
14 Jul
'00
2:23 a.m.
Dammit - I was offered a Mac IIfx last week but didn't get to it fast enough
- he only wanted ukp25 for it which was fine by me. To run it on a IIci
would I need to get a proper video card in order to free up some system RAM?
The other Macs I've got are Plus, Classic, Classic II, Colour Classic, II,
IIci, and LC2. Next week I might be getting a Performa 475 but aren't they
the same machine as the LC2?
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
Sent: 14 July 2000 15:15
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
http://www.create.ucsb.edu/squeak/
I've seen a document that described SmallTalk
and thought
it still looks
better than anything I've seen up to now; I
think you're
right about the
Star though, from what I remember of the
Horn/Raskin
discussion. I knew
Bruce Horn he was one of the SmallTalk developers
though,
dunno why I
didn't
mention it.
Although I run Squeak under Windows and on a Power Mac, I still prefer
running the original Xerox Smalltalk-80 VI2.2 under System 6 on a Mac.
I have it on a IIci, but the IIci has a Radius Rocket in it, and the
virtual machine doesn't like its 68040. I have a Mac IIfx
I'll be running
it on in the near future, at almost twice the speed of the
IIci's '030.
I'll have to run the benchmarks, but I think it runs at 0.5 Dolphin.
-dq
cheers
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
> Sent: 14 July 2000 13:58
> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
> Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
>
>
> I have it on good authority that Smalltalk-80 was not ported
> to the Star.
> It was running on the Alto and the Dolphin at the time, as
> well as another
> Xerox workstation whose name I can't recall. Larry Teslar was
> working at
> PARC at the time, and ended up following Jobs back to
Apple, because
> Xerox couldn't get their asses in gear
and Apple looked
like it knew
what it
was doing (w/r/t getting new technology out the door).
For those interested in what Smalltalk-80 feels like to
play with, you
> should try Squeak, a successor developed by some of Smalltalk-80's
> authors, Alan Kay and Dan Ingalls, at Disney. Squeak is everything
> ST80 was and more.
>
> You can find info about Squeak at: