8 Apr
2002
8 Apr
'02
6:46 a.m.
What are the Tramiels doing today? Ruining other companies?
-Chandra
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Walker
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 9:03 AM
To: Curt Vendel; classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: GEM-OS
I love it ! Still giggling. This puts various things into perspective
including the
Amiga legend. Even the Hasbro sale and Atari demise is related to the
precarious monetory origins of the Tramiel fortune. One would have
thought
he came out of the Commodore thing fairly flush
Lawrence
which
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Here's an interesting history tidbit... the
Tramiels were so strapped
for
cash when they took over Atari, that in order to pay
DRI for the work
on GEM 68K
for the ST computers.... they paid DRI with the VAX
11/750 located in
the Atari
Grass Valley R&D lab which was closed shortly
after. I spoke with
Ron Milner,
one of the original Atari engineers and he explained
how one day Gary
Kildall
and crew were in the R&D computer room
disconnecting the Vax and was
explained
that it was their "payment" for developing a
new OS for the Tramiels.
Curt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Walker" <lgwalker(a)mts.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: GEM-OS
> They had a common origin in GEM 1.2. The ST GEM ran on top of TOS.
> The guy who wrote it for DRI (Lee Lorenzen) was one of the Xerox
Parc
> people who really developed the GUI as well as
mouse usage. Jobs
> glommed his Mac ideas as well as numerous coders from Parc and then
> sued DRI for copying the Mac. He won and DRI was forced to cripple
later
versions and
never marketed it very seriously even tho it preceded
Windows.
> For some reason Apple didn't go after the ST or Ventura Publisher > used GEM. Lorenzen was one of the founders of
Ventura.
>
> Lawrence
>
> > And thusly Curt Vendel spake:
> > >
> > > Don't forget Diamond which is a GEM TOS "look-alike" version
designed
for the
available
> > Atari 8bits which original came on disk
and then came on Super
Cartridge
> > > format. Designed by Reevesoft.
> > >
> >
> > Does the GEM TOS have any relationship to the GEM OS that was for the PC? (Other then name)
Cheers,
Bryan
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