6 May
2002
6 May
'02
6:51 a.m.
I do believe you've misread part of the spec's, Joe. The 8708, IIRC, is a
5-volt-only version of the 2708, otherwise masqueraded as the 2758. I got one
of these back in the mid-late '70's, on an 8748 evaluation board, and as such,
it was my first 5-volt-only EPROM. They were described by the Intel FAE as
2716's with a flaw in one half or the other, and they were available in two
types, with either a high or low enable where the 2716 had an address line.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: 2708 Programming Algorithm?
manual.
per address per loop. And that a loop is one pass through all the addresses.
You have to repeat the loop until N (passes) x Tpw (programming pulse width)
Steve,
I don't have the programming instructions for the 2708 but I do have them
for the intel 8708 and intels later manuals state that they're the same.
Here's what I have in the sept 1975 8080 Microcomputer Systems User's manual.
At 08:21 AM 5/6/02 -0700, you wrote:
and
voltage supply lines are the same as for the read mode.
I obtained a bunch of 2708 UVEPROM's, and
I'd like to
be able to program them. As you may know, they require
a different algorithm than the 2716 and on, and three
voltages, +5, +12, and -5.
I'm building a little board that will program 1/2 (the
upper or lower) of a 2716 to a 2708 (I can program
2716's). But I can't find a description of the
algorithm that is detailed enough. What I think I know
is:
1. The /OE line must be high
Intel says to raise the CS*/WE line to +12 volt.
2. select address and data (start at addr 0)
Correct. A note here says that the logicx levels for the address, data 3. bring PGM line from 0 to 27 volts for 1 mSec,
Correct except you can use 25 (min) to 27 (max) volts according to the
then
times are
10uS (min) for each but they could be different for the 2708.
drop back to 0 (this seems very strange)
You have to allow for the setup time for the new address and data. The 4. repeat 100 times per address (not all at once,
NO. This isn't what's in the intel manual. It says one programming pulse
= 100mS.
is
about 11ma for Icc @5.25v, 65ma for Idd @12.6v with CS*/WE high and about
35 ma with CS*/WE low, 41ma for Ibb @-5.25v with CS*/WE high and about 17ma
with CS*/WE low.
increment the address lines and loop to avoid
"overheating" a byte.
5. drop /OE and verify.
"Note that programming and read loops can be alternated"
Does anybody have an authoritative description, and a
current requirement for the +5, +12, -5, and
programming pulse? Thanks.
It varies according to the temperature but the max occurs at low temp and
The programming pulse current is typically 10mA with 20mA max.
Have fun!
Joe
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