18 Dec
2015
18 Dec
'15
5:40 p.m.
On 2015-12-18 9:30 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
grrrr 3271 and 3272 controllers I should have said!
They're much
dumber than 3174 - no program load device whatever; all done in
hardware. Just an on/off switch and a couple of status lights.
Mike
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Mike Ross <tmfdmike at gmail.com> wrote:
The 3272 is a channel attach controller the 3271 is the remote BSC (mods
1&2 )or SDLC (mods 11&12). I only recall seeing bisync ones, and 30+
years later I can still remember the bisync pollong sequence.
Paul.
Oh sounds like fun!
I'm working with 3277 which uses a different protocol; connects to
older mainframes (360/370) via 3171/3172 controllers - channel
attached or remote. Also connects to System/3 direct to the CPU
hardware as a console. I have a 3172 controller; physically rough and
needs restoration but *should* work if I can fake the remote
connection and modem - bisync etc. But just now I'm working with
Henk's 3277->RS232 converter - trying to get it hooked up to an
emulated System/3 - http://www.ibmsystem3.nl/emulators.html
I've played this game a lot - including telnetting into Linux from
3270 screens - see http://www.corestore.org/emuterm.htm
Please let me know when you manage to ship those 3174 diskettes to
Henk; I know he's keen to get them ASAP.
Mike
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Guy Sotomayor <ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
I?ve been tinkering around with my IBM Mainframe
terminals and I?m pretty close to having everything the way that I want it.
I currently have an IBM 3174-61R Establishment controller connecting to my ?mainframes?
via TCP/IP. This allows me to not only connect to my Multiprise 3000 S/390 but also some
PCs running Hercules to allow me to run older versions of the mainframe OS?s. I currently
have 3 IBM 3179 terminals hooked up.
I?ve upgraded the 3174 to be able to boot from a hard disk (it was a supported option).
I actually purchased the upgrade from a reputable vendor but after many attempts we could
not actually get it to do anything useful. I learned about DavidG?s MFM emulator and
that?s now installed in the 3174 which happily boots from it. I still have to figure out
a permanent mount for it since the standard 3174 HDD mounts don?t work for the MFM
emulator board.
One of the last things that I wanted to figure out was how to support multiple sessions.
I had configured the 3174 to support multiple sessions on each terminal but following the
documentation, I could never figure out how to actually switch between the sessions. Well
today I managed to do that. Success! I finally figured out the key sequence for
switching sessions. It doesn?t match the IBM documentation. It?s not clear to me if
that?s because I haven?t configured something properly on the 3174 or if there?s some
other reason behind it.
Since I also have the AEA feature that allows me to connect ASCII terminals to the 3174,
my next project will be to hook up a couple of the terminals that?re deemed ?compatible?
(VT100, ADM5 are on the list) and see how that works. But that also involves navigating
the 3174 configuration process which is opaque to say the least (there are configuration
screens but you need a manual because the fields only have numbers (e.g. 721) to identify
them and no other indication as to how they need to be filled in).
Oh, the other bizarre thing about the 3174 that?s been configured with TCP/IP is that I
can also connect to ?unix? servers with the 3174?s (and the ASCII terminals too). It?ll
be interesting to see how that works on a CUT mode terminal. ;-)
TTFN - Guy
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