17 Jun
2013
17 Jun
'13
11:17 a.m.
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, N0body H0me wrote:
I agree with this to a point -- I still think we have a lot of hackers here
:).
I'd also like to clarify (since I think I came off as a bit of an ass
yesterday) that I don't have a problem with the OT stuff in general, just
that as of late it's kind of taken over everything. It seems like in years
past a mod (Jay, for example) would pop in to settle things down when
things got out of hand and that just doesn't happen anymore (I assume
people are busy, it happens). At any rate, I want to apologize if I
annoyed anyone (pretty sure I did). Meant no offense, and I hope things
return to normal soon :)
And on the "make them 'go' and talk about how we did it" front, I
thought
I'd share my blog (my first attempt at blogging, mixed results) , wherein
I'm learning the ropes by restoring an Imlac PDS-1D:
http://rottedbits.blogspot.com/
- Josh
From: jules.richardson99 at gmail.com
Sent: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:39:21 -0500
I've been wondering about Joe Rigdon myself since I became active here
again.
It changed when this list (and other online discussion groups/forums)
became more about "collecting" vs hardware and software "hacking"
(the
original definition, not the definition the media started using).
When "investing" (hoarding) and paying huge sums of money for old
computers because "its a rare collectible" became more popular within a
subset of the classic computing hobby, there was a noticeable focus shift
from helping others tinker with their old computers to discussions about
obtaining "rare collectibles" ("its NIB, and I'll never use/open
it!") and
trying to justify why someone just spent a fortune on something.
The very idea of soldering mod wires or -gasp- modifying/adding components
on one of these "rare collectible" computer boards absolutely horrifies
most of these "investment" types.
On 06/14/2013 11:24 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
I *think* that based on prior history (and correct me if I'm wrong)
I remember those days; we used to have the likes of Joe Rigdon (wherever
you are), Megan Gentry (don't know if she still lurks here), and some
others I can't remember anymore. We had a somewhat different cast of
characters, and of course it was a different hobby back then as well (but I
won't go there).
This hobby gave me a peaceful, easy feeling in those days (to borrow a
line from the Eagles). Folks were always eager to help, always willing to
lend a hand (and maybe a tape image or two), and we'd have a good laugh
while we were at it.
We loved our machines, and we loved to expend the effort just to make
them 'go' and talk about how we did it. That's what our hobby (and this
mailing list) was really all about.
I'm not saying that the above isn't true anymore: I'm simply saying that
the mood and character of our hobby has changed over the years, and that
there are folks who used to have alot of interesting stuff to say, are now
silent.
Flame suit on.
that the next subject should be about how USB is
not, infact, a "bus" and
is stupid and awful and can't be interfaced to a ZX Spectrum and therefore
is a failure oh God make it stop make it stop make it stop.
I do somewhat miss the old days of the list, ~15 years ago, when OT
"discussion" almost always focused on either cars or guns, and rarely
anything else :-)