30 Aug
2008
30 Aug
'08
3:02 p.m.
Subject: Subject: Re: Wanted: vacuum tube logic circuits
From: William Blair <wbblair3 at yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:42:53 -0700 (PDT)
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Chuck Guzis wrote:
I just got finished builting a recieving converter and used 12V as Plate
voltage with good success using standard 12BA6 for RF amp, mixer and osc functions
as I couldn't find my supply of 12EK7s. The 12BA6 nominally is speced at 150V
for plate.
The assumption is that triode tube are required for logic is also false.
If the goal is to stay away from scary voltages I'd suggest 22.5, 45 or 67V
as they are easy to obtain and most any tube performs resonably in that range.
Running below 12V is harder and narrows ones choices.
Allison
My first exposure to very-low plate voltage
applications
was with a code-practice oscillator built from a circuit in the ARRL
Radio Amateur's Handbook. ISTR it used a 6SN7 that used the
6.3v from the heater winding as plate voltage. At any rate, it would
drive a pair of earphones. Perhaps someone with a RAH collection
from the 1950's might locate the circuit.
Thank you! That's the perfect tube multivibrator lead which allowed me to find these
references using "code oscillator" and "6SN7" as search terms:
p29, Dec '55: "A Heterodyne Crystal Calibrator AND CODE PRACTICE
OSCILLATOR" uses both halves of a 7N7, 6SN7, or 12AU7 (or pairs of many triodes) and
two crystals to give marker signals at the DIFFERENCE of the two crystals
p41, Jun '52: "...Frequency Standard...Oscillator" uses a 6F6
oscillator, both halves of a 6SN7 as a multivibrator
p30, Mar '62: Uses a 6AU6 oscillator at 100 kc and a 12AU7
multivibrator to also give 50 kc markers
p33, Jan '65: Uses a 6AQ5 oscillator at 100 kc and a 6AS6 10-kc
sub-harmonic generator (no diode and NO inductors!)
p34, May '65: Uses a 6AU6 oscillator at 100 kc, a 12AU7 multi-
vibrator for 10 kc points, and another 12AU7
All of these and more were found here:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.radio.amateur.homebrew/2007…
Do you recall if the p29, Dec '55 project was the 6.3V plate voltage project you
mentioned?
The successful use of 6.3V as the plate voltage in a multivibrator using a standard HV
tube is extremely encouraging. The lowest voltage used for the audio circuits I've
built was 24V which was most likely used to put the tubes in a more linear operating
region which wouldn't be necessary with a multivibrator.
While dual (identical) pentodes aren't too
common for
you to use the first grid as a space-charge element,
I wonder if one of the sync-separator tubes, such as the
6BU8 might not do the trick. Single cathode and first grid,
independent 3rd grids and plates.
Thanks, that will be an interesting thing to try.
In the 20's and 30's before
small-geometry power
tubes became available, "microwave" experimenters would take a
hefty triode and put a high positive voltage on the grid and a
slightly negative voltage on the plate to induce Barkhausen
oscillation. But that has nothing to do with your problem, so
forget that I mentioned
But thanks for mentioning it anyway since I'm interested in reading about any unusual
operating modes for tubes.
Bill