22 Apr
2002
22 Apr
'02
9:05 a.m.
On Monday 22 April 2002 11:58, you wrote:
Raymond Moyers wrote:
(unix plumbing)
The problem with unix it never really found a clean way
to go from a line oriented system to a video screen system.
eh ?
you mean those systems that eschew the command line by
makeing the function it provided impossible ?
Unix is superior *because* it retained the command line.
the Unix GUI is also superior, because it is network transparent.
Allmost 99% of unix is based on the main frame model
of computing
where you have 50 people all say text editing with the same editor
and 3 people running a program in the background.
Ok so you dont know anything about unix, thats what you are
saying here.
Its also apparent that everything you have been told about it came
from those equally ignorant, they are all wrong.
The windows model is based on personal computers with
crappy hardware
that you have 100% of the system to yourself.
How does that differ from my unix boxes ? i certainly have them all
to myself.
I would like to see a 3rd system, one where the
concept of information
can be shared and that gives you a standard toolkit for both character
and bitmaped displays
That is an oxymoron, even tho what unix has now makes this look
like what is happening.
Gimp dont translate to a tty very well, but an xterm is certainly the
bitmapped representation of the tty.
and the bitmapped display is network transparent, making it superior
to everything else, 2 CPUs or a farm of 4000 boxes, you only need one
screen to run both tty and GUI software on all of them at once.
that will permit plumbing from everybody.
Unix already has this X11 is a standard you can run your sun apps
your irix apps your freebsd apps all on the GUI of your linux box all
at once. and last time i looked, all the other systems have adopted
our plumbing, not the other way around.
I use a
640x480 screen because I can read the text.I don't need ICON's that fill
80% of the screen or thousands of pop up windows.
eh ? what would be wrong with a nice large 4096 x 3192 screen
with whatever size fonts you desire ? and the ability to populate
that screen with the workload of a whole stack of boxes.
I want to use a computer not playwith it.
"Well the end user experience" is system agnostic except
for the winblows limitations that dumbs your system down
to the microset winblows can provide. unix has point and
click too, but it isnt implimented stupidly.
> But what makes it really powerfull is that they
plumb together
> Its like attempting to explain the shuttle nosewhell servos
> to a cave man, they have no frame of reference, and are
> too ignorant to have any hint of how ignorant they are.
Well maybe if they (the shuttle people) asked the
Caveman in the first place you might have a better Space Program.
You would make a good leftist, the asurdity seems high enough.
Anyway for all the people that think Caveman had a big
club, and
hairy body and where chased by dinosaurs -- read "Clan of the Cavebear"
by Jean M. Auel for what real cave life could have been like.
So utopian brainwashed fiction writers are now your authority
on such things ..
PS. A few days ago somebody spoke about a construction
company
that uses VW bugs for transport and tanks for welding. When you think
about it that is the model one needs for construction in space.
reusable space transport (space plane) is offhand 10x the cost and 1/10
the payload of air transport. Because a two stage vehical is needed
the what you can put in BUG ( 500..2000 LB's) seems to the typical
payload. Nobody asked me!!
Are you a moonie of Noam Chomsky too ?