Ancient 6502 FOCAL source code

There's a little information that might help shed light on this matter in the "history" written by Larry Fish on www.6502group.org if you care to read it. I've been uninvolved in the activities of this venerable group for over a decade, thouth I've maintained contact with certain individuals and thereby kept aware of the activities. Their website, so far, does not contain any links to any of this old software, and, at the moment nobody knows where it's stored. Nobody seems to care enough to find out about it, so I've been going around p*ssing people off by asking what happened to the files that Larry Fish provided for the purpose of putting it on the site. He has, of course, cleared it off his own site, since it is of limited interest by now. It's possible that through the lack of interest of some, and the lack of consideration of some others, this fairly significant work product of the '70's may be lost to the general public. There are, IIRC, a very few copies of of the pre-APEX software still in existence on microfiche, though I don't personally own them, and there are a few copies on listings, of which I had all, have most, though not all are in useable condition. The output of this very active group in the '70's, which was when I was actively involved, seemed to stop abruptly in about1981, by which time the key players, i.e. Wall, Fish, Boyle, and Blaney, all had Apple]['s. So long as there was one or more of these fellows using their old Digital Group boxes, they were busy making tools to support that architecture and that took up a large share of their time. By the time they had their Apple]['s, they no longer generated code that wouldn't run on the Apple][, so that meant everything had to be Apple][-compatible, and the rise of APEX made the boundary between the Apple][ and the Digital Group systems disappear. Once they were able to share their work product reliably (as reliably as Apple][ diskettes would allow) they were able to interact in smaller groups and the need for discussions and projects in the context of the larger group were no longer beneficial, though they were entertaining. This meant that they were all able to do their work without the general involvement of the group at large, so that's when new software stopped flowing from the fountain. AFAIK, there was nothing ever done in the 6502group that involved the various products from Commodore, Synertek, or Rockwell, with the exception of the few things done early-on to support one or two group members' KIMs, and that stopped once the interest in FDD's began to increase. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se> To: "Richard Erlacher" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: Re: Ancient 6502 FOCAL source code