Tom Jennings wrote:
For neon, from flawed memory, strike-over is around
100V, and
sustain around 80V. [...] You could probably make a
coincident-voltage
memory from them... but they'd be slow I think, but pretty.
I replied:
If the numbers are 80V and 100V...
[matrix drive
ideas snipped]
I've just looked at the specifications for Chicago Miniature Lamp
neon bulbs, and it looks like they don't have anything suitable.
The problem is that the specifications for the "maintain" and
"breakdown" (start) voltage ranges are too wide, and often there
is overlap. So unless you are willing to cherry-pick bulbs that
meet tighter specs, 2-D matrix drive doesn't seem practical.
For instance, the 4AD and 4AE bulbs do have a nice wide separation
between the maximum maintain voltage and minimum breakdown voltage,
but the ranges are too wide:
rated maintain breakdown
current voltage voltage
------- -------- ---------
4AD 0.50 mA 60-80V 105-135V
4AE 0.50 mA 60-80V 120-150V
For symmetric drive you need to deal with three voltages (in
opposite polarities for X and Y):
A - below minimum maintain when applied to both X and Y,
within maintain range when applied to just one
B - nominal maintain when applied to both X and Y
C - above maximum breakdown when applied to both X and Y,
within maintain range when applied to just one
This results in five inequalies to be satisfied. FOr the 4AD:
2*A < 60 - guarantee turn-off
2*B >= 80 - guarantee maintain
2*C >= 150 - guarantee turn-on
A+B > 80 - don't turn off non-selected bulbs
B+C < 120 - don't turn on non-selected bulbs
Unfortuantely there is no set of numbers for A, B, and C that satisfy
all five inequalities.
For the asymmetric case, you have six variables, since there are
different voltages used for each of three states on X and Y.
A+D < 60
B+E >= 80
C+F >= 150
A+E > 80
B+D > 80
B+F < 120
C+E < 120
I haven't tried to find a solution to this. Is there any readily
available software (preferrably free) that solves sets of inequalities
like this?
I also can't find a distributor that stocks the 4AD or 4AE bulbs.
The C2A is avaialble for $0.186 each in quantity 5000 from Newark,
but the characteristics are even more unsuitable.
Eric