13 May
2013
13 May
'13
3:32 p.m.
On May 13, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 5/13/13 1:59 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
At IBM we tried to run away from it as far and as fast as possible. I was on the
evaluation team
The microkernel used by Pink and
the object model were "toys". Much of the consternation over Taligent at IBM
was fighting
over trying to get fundamental issues addressed (which I won't go into here...it
would take
many hours to compose a sane account).
I was responsible for the drivers in the RISC products group (88110 before PPC) and
working
with the Pink kernel people was bad from the Apple side of things as well. It didn't
surprise
me that it all went away and Taligent became an applications framework. Neither Taligent
or
Kaleida ended well.
Before I left Apple, I tried to find copies of Pink/Taligent documentation, and it had
all been flushed.
from IBM to determine if we should do anything with the
Pink team (still have my Pink coffee mug).
It didn't see too bad at first, then once we *really* dug into it and started dealing
with the various
"personalities" did we realize how bad it all was.
I remember a friend of mine at IBM took the Taligent source code (which was all C++) and
ran it
through a program he wrote to graph the object relationships. I walked into his office
one day and
said "Lou, why do you have the wall of your office papered with black paper?".
His comment was
that was the object relationship graph for Taligent. All of the object were so
interrelated that the
"lines" turned the pages black. That's when we realized how bad it really
was.
TTFN - Guy