APPLEVISION Monitor

Sorry, I have to argue with you here ;) The fact (well, at least my opinion) is that Apple makes it easy to remain completely ignorant of most important things about their computer while still "using" them. (I'll define "using" in the above as "doing the same mundane things that everyone else does with their computer") I'd say that Apple even encourages user-ignorance by not including applications that will even let you get at the filesystem with their O/S -- Finder doesn't count because it won't show desktop (and friends) at all, and God help you if you want to set file attributes. With OS X, that's hopefully changed. That lack of utility software, among other things done by Apple (think all-in-one, closed box designs) serves to keep users in the dark about many things. Now, I can't prove this, but I've personally seen it, so take that how you will. I've of course heard all of the Mac Zealot spin on my complaints above and I know all about how some people think that those things are actually advantages -- like a mouse that has only one button... to avoid confusion -- , but I don't buy it :) The thing is that I really do like Apple, and a lot of their hardware and software, and I hope to see it become a good product (for me, It's already a fine product for some people) some day. Ok, that's somewhat of an odd statement in context. Could it be that he wasn't doing "serious" work on the systems at the time? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '