Turned out to be an HP 9820A, and I mana> ged to get the other 9820A and
a 9810A out of the recycling bin without anyone noticing. Unfortunately
couldn't retrieve anything else.
VERY nice finds. Those are examples of the second series of HP desktop
caclulators, known as HP9800s.
The HP9810 is a 3-level stack machine. It's not strictly RPN in my
opinion becuase there is no automatic stack lift/drop on most operations.
It's simialr to the HP9100 in this respect.
The HP9820 is HP's first algebraic notation calculator.
There are 2 other machines in the family. The (rare) HP9821 is an HP9820
with a built-in digital cassette drive in place of the card reader. The
HP9830 is a full BASIC language computer.
Both are programmable, but have only a few built-in functions. Are there
any ROM modules in yours (look on top behind the display)? The maths ROM,
for example, adds logs, SIN/COS/TAN, etc. The machines can work without
any extra ROMs, so not having them is not a disaster.
The 9820 will have a built-in thermal printer (I think it's standard on
that model), it's an option on the 9810 (Opt 004 IIRC). It is the same
unit, so if you have no pritner in the 9810 you could move one from one
of the 9820s into it.
Just wondering if there is anything in particular to
watch out for
when powering up one of these for the first time other than normal power
supply checks?
I'll answer that in a moment, since there's quite a bit to say.
I (obviously) don't know much about these machines at all, but I'm
particularly mystified about how the built in card reader worked (is it
magnetic?).. Could it be written to as well?
YEs, it's magnetic, yes it writes too. It puts 3 data tracks nad oen
timing track on the card, you put one end fo the card in, then turn it
round and put the other end in to get twcie the capacity (in other words
it only uised half the width of the card at a time. It's a pity you
didn't get any cards, those are not easy to find.
You can get user manauls, the HP service manaul and some unofficial
scheamtics from
http://www.hpmuseum.net/
OI know a little abotu the insides of the machines. The first thing is
that the 9810 and 9820 are vey closely related. About 60" of the
internals are the same.
The CPU is bit-serial, 16 bit (it's one of the few bit-serial machines
you are likely to come across). Actually, that's a simplification. It's
bit-serial for binary operations, but does BCD adition one nybble at a
time. The CPU is 4 boards (I/O inteface, clock( and I/O state machine),
control logic (microcode), data path (ALU and registers)). The CPU is the
same on both machines.
So is the PSU. THis is 3 boards, One is a 5V swithing regulator. One is
+/-12V fopr the analogue electroncis and the ROMs. The last is +16V and
+19V for the (PMOS) 11/3 DRAMs and +124V for the printer. These boards
are under a cover at the right side of the machine, there are labelled
testpoints for all rails apart from the +5V (which you can find on any
backplane conenctor). The metal chasis (and mains earth) is conencted to
the logic 0V rail and proivides a convenient place to clip the black lead
off your meter :-)
The printer and card reader are the same too, as is the main backplane.
So what's different? The display and keybord obviously, although the
keyboard operates on the smae peinciple in both machines. And it's not
normal. In fact there's a littke pulse transsformer formed by spiral PCB
tracks under each key. The transformers for 2 keys are conencted in
inverse series. When yuo press a key you damen one transformer, causing
the puse fro mthe other one to be no longer cancelled out.
The main diffence thoug, is nthe memroy box. This is the metal box at the
left side of the machine, behind the display, It contains the firmware
(HP custom masked ROMs), one board for a 9810 (2K words) and 2 boards
(all boards are electrically identical, just with differnet ROMs fitted)
for 4K words on the 9820. Thern there are 3 boards of control logic,
including the memroy addres (M) and memoory data (T) shift registers.
Finally, boards of RAM. Most machines use 1103 1K bit DRAMs. I am told
that there is a version of the 9820 using 2102 static RAMs, I have never
seen it (and I want to).
Basically what I do when I get one of thse machines on the bench is :
Dismantle it. Remove top cover, keyboard assembly, all the boards, memory
box, printer, card reader, etc. I often take out the rear panel and
backplane too, cna clean everyting up
Refit the backplane and rear panel, reconenct the pwer swtich (on the
keyboard assembly) and apply mains. The fan should run. Check the AC
voltages on the PSU board connectors.
Fit the PSU bvoards and power up again. The PSU cover is part of the
heatsinking, but you an run the machine for testing without it. Check all
PSU output votlages.
Fit the CPU boards, the display and the mnemoty box (do not fit the
printer, card reder/controlelr or the keyboard data cable at this point).
Power up. You will not get a display. You should do, but there will be
logic faults. Unfotruantely as the display is scnaned by the CPU (under
control of the firmware) there could be a fault just about anywheere.
And now for the fun part. Assuming you want to repari it rather than
boardswap it, you now have to work through the logic. Ithink you need
several thigns to do this, others re desirable
Need : The scheamtics, a good logic probe, the CPU microcode sources [1],
and a brain that knows how the darn thing should work.
Desirable : A logic anaylser
[1] Ask me nicely if you want this
Once you've got it working, you'll need to sort out the mechanical side.
The roller in the card reader will have died. The pritner platten
probably has as well. The fromer turns to crumbly dust which si nto a
problem the latter turns to a sticky black goo that gets everywhere.
nyway, I can tell you how I repair them, but you need a good workshop.
Others do it with hand tools, but I am not convinced it's as reliable.
This is a blatant advert in 2 senses, but you might consider joining
hpcc. The point being that there's an ongoing series of articles in the
magazine entitled 'Repairing HP9800 Desktop Calcualtors' that might be
useful. I suspect you can get last year's magazines to get the first 4
parts if you join and ask the membership secreatary.
Please feel free to ask for any information on these great machines
-tony