15 Oct
2012
15 Oct
'12
7:34 a.m.
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, Liam Proven wrote:
Note that they can't even seem to maintain their bug tracking database.
Apparently until I dug into it, no one had linked these as the same bug.
Since I have no admin privileges, I couldn't mark them as duplicates, but
at least now there is a lot more information there.
If Intel hadn't axed the Pentium III when they did the Pentium 4 would
have never caught on in the consumer marketplace, or at least not the
Willamette...it sucked. A 1.2-1.4GHz P3 can run circles around a
Willamette P4 while drawing a lot less current. It wasn't until Northwood
that Intel began to get its act together, but the P4 still always ran far
too hot, even Prescott.
On 14 October 2012 21:56, Tothwolf <tothwolf at
concentric.net> wrote:
Well, I don't know about SSE2, but requiring certain features, yes,
certainly. Last year, Debian stopped offering a kernel for my Thinkpad's
Pentium-M & I had to revert to the 486-optimised kernel. This year,
Ubuntu dropped support for x86-32 CPUs without PAE - so again, ordinary
32-bit Ubuntu will no longer boot on my Thinkpad. I had to use the
minimal-install CD to install a barebones system and then apt-get in the
Unity desktop off the net. It worked, but slowly; I replaced it with
Lubuntu, which works much better, but I understand that as of 12.10
(next week!) evne Lubuntu will lost the non-PAE kernel as the upstream
repositories will no longer contain it.
It's not just an x86 problem, either; the reason that Ubuntu won't run
on the Raspberry Pi is that it dropped support for ARM7 back in 2009.
(IIRC.)
Debian also dropped support for the Alpha processor in 'squeeze' (6.0).
This is something I'm very much planning to do something about, although
I'm sure I'll piss off a few Debian developers in the process because "No
one uses that old hardware anymore!!!" ...
http://www.debian.org/ports/alpha/
I have most of the Alpha gear I'd need to kick it off (although some of it
could probably use more memory), just not the /space/ needed to unpack it
and set it all up.
One of the
worst offenders that I discovered is the Adobe Flash plugin.
They "can't reproduce the issue" because they _won't_ test with
anything older than a Core Duo. It is just plain pitiful.
http://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3161034
http://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3155858
http://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3154276
http://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3158108
That is just sad. ...and I
happen to like the Pentium III (the Tualatin -S variants in
particular) and Pentium M.
Concur. Fine chips. Much better than the P4 that succeeded them.