21 Nov
2003
21 Nov
'03
12:30 p.m.
it's a museum!!! Emulate hardware for display?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Shannon" <bshannon(a)tiac.net>
To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion: On-Topic
and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
I
it
The 2883 would be an ideal drive to replace by
hardware emulation!
ed sharpe wrote:
>you will have to bring a 2883 disc drive though... we are missing ours!
>
>I can see it now... Hi Flight attendant... I want to carry on this 500
lb.
>disk drive...
>
>ed!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion:
On-Topic and
>Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>
>
>>Ed;
>>
>>I get the impression that the 2000Access system you have "under glass"
>>
>isn't
>
>>running. Shipping parts around might be expensive... buy me a plane
ticket
>>and I'll come out there and get it running
for you. SOO much nicer to
show
>>
>a
>
>>running system :)
>>
>>Jay West
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
>>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:11 PM
>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>
>>
>>>no one ever touched the inside of that unit except me, but... yes
when
>>>
>I
>
>>>am in the giant glass display case I can check! yep... hp under glass!
a
>sight to behold!
>
>ed!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion:
On-Topic and
>Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:25 PM
>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>
>
>>Yes, you have to pop them out to put them in a prom reader. However,
>>
>that's
>
>>not what I was asking. I was merely asking if you were positive you
>>
had
>>them, via visual inspection, so we knew
there were at least two sets
>>
in
>the
>
>>world rather than my one set :) Someone could have pulled them out
>>
years
>>ago, that's why I was asking for a
visual check to be really sure they
>>
>were
>
>>present in your system.
>>
>>Jay West
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
>>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>
>>
>>>no you have to pop them out to put them in a prom reader!
>>>
>>>I know they are there... the system would not have worked as an
>>>
access
>>>system had they not!
>>>
>>>we need a set of hardware manuals for the 2100... it seems though
>>>
the
>>passing of the years the old ones I had at computer exchange Inc.
>>
let
>the
>
>>earth...
>>
>> I DID find though the 2100 hardware training manual # 02100-90159
>>
while
>>looking at home here for the infamous DEC master Module List....
>>
When
I
>>retired I squirreled bits of manuals all over where I live... Most
>>
have
>>>been added to the museum's reference library but it seems every time
>>> go
>>digging I find something.new I know the 2100 processor manuals are
>>
gone
>>though as they were in the HP binders....
kind of hard to loose
>>
those!
>>ed sharpe archivist for smecc
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>>To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 7:09 PM
>>Subject: Fw: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>
>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>>>To: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:08 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>>
>>>
>>>>You don't have to pop out the chips, just pull out the rom card,
>>>>
A1
or
>>A2,
>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>think it's A2 going from memory. Look at the card and see what
>>>>
numbers
>>are
>>
>>>>on the white and gold chips that are socketed :)
>>>>
>>>>J
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
>>>>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only"
>>>>
<cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
>>>>Cc: <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:31 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>well I have the set that is in the 2100 in the 2000 access
>>>>>
system
>>>here.
>>>
>>>>>not a loose set. ( shall we call it embedded?)
>>>>>
>>>>>I would live in fear of poping them out though......
>>>>>
>>>>>ed!
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>>>>>To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General
Discussion:
>>>>>
On-Topic
>>and
>>
>>>>>Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:07 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You're quite sure you have a set of the IOP firmware for the
>>>>>>
2100
>>cpus
>>
>>>>Ed?
>>>>
>>>>>>If so, good to know. I really want to get mine backed up as
>>>>>>
they
>>>seem
>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the only ones around. However, I got a new prom burner and
>>>>>>> is
>>>acting
>>>
>>>>>very
>>>>>
>>>>>>flaky so I'm a little afraid to put my chips in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jay
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
>>>>>>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>>>>>><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>ctalk@classiccmp.org>; <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:16 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>we have a set too Al, but alas no way to read them....
>>>>>>>It is up to you Jay!
>>>>>>>ed!
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Al Kossow" <aek(a)spies.com>
>>>>>>>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:54 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'll try to dump the microcode proms this weekend
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dumps of the firmware is now up at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>www.bitsavers.org/HP/1000_firmware
>>>>
>>>>>>>>including the IOP firmware the 21MX.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jay, since you appear to have the only surviving copy of
>>>>>>>>
the
>>2100
>>
>>>>IOP
>>>>
>>>>>>>>firmware, it would be good to get the proms read.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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